Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15092 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2005 12:51:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2005 12:51:44 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CwgQh-0005Ax-97 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:49:53 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CwgQg-0005Aa-7V for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:49:50 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CwgSS-000I3F-9g for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:51:40 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CwgPR-0005ZW-JC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:48:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CwgPR-0005ZJ-4X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:48:33 +0000 Received: from virus-out-st.online.no ([193.212.240.200] helo=scan.telenor.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwgPM-0004Xf-Kk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:48:33 +0000 Received: from tns-fbu-22-208.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.90] [134.47.162.90]) by scan.telenor.net with ESMTP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:47:56 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-213.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.191]) by tns-fbu-22-208.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:47:53 +0100 Received: from TNS-FBU-2E-014.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.163.43]) by tns-fbu-22-213.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:47:53 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 13:47:52 +0100 Message-Id: Thread-Topic: Longwave Receiver LE 11? Thread-Index: AcUJU8OdOxX+QXvXQ3qjKlC4ZoeQSwAmfRSA From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2005 12:47:53.0303 (UTC) FILETIME=[93985E70:01C509EE] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 193.212.240.200 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of telenor.com X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: LF: Antw.: Longwave Receiver LE 11? (Intern) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) It depends whether it is German steel valves like EF11, EBC11 etc or some other rubbish, believe I saw something like it in Düsseldorf once, I reckon many collectors are interested. But the problem with receivers like LwEa is that they have too large scale, with 2cm for the 136kHz band, so the tuning is difficult and really need an external VFO. Also the bandwidth for such receivers are usually not good enough, KwEa and LwEa has 800Hz BW which once was regarded to be very narrow, and even used as Q5'er, while today I use Digital signal processor for 100-200Hz bandwidth - even with KwEa. A selektiver Pegelmesser like Siemens D2006 with 80Hz selektivity is far better, and tuning is very accurate. 73, Jan-Martin, LA8AK -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Pċ vegne av Holger 'Geri', DK8KW Sendt: 2. februar 2005 19:18 Til: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Emne: LF: Longwave Receiver LE 11? Hi LF-group, someone offered me an old vintage receiver called Lorenz LE11, he said it ist a longwave receiver starting at 5 kHz, with steel tubes, estimated value 250,- Euro. Anybody knows anything about this radio? Anybody interested? My shack already is so crowded that I don't have space for another boat anchor ... Best 73 Geri, DK8KW (W1KW)