Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28812 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2005 11:57:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Feb 2005 11:57:10 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1D5jXj-000MRQ-QZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:58:38 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1D5jXj-000MRE-7g for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:58:31 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1D5jXy-0001Z0-T4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:58:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1D5jVw-00041R-Us for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:56:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1D5jVw-000419-9t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:56:40 +0000 Received: from smtpout17.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.17] helo=mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D5jVu-0004zJ-OK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:56:40 +0000 Received: from aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050228115633.MHCD29900.mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:56:33 +0000 Received: from p2300 ([80.1.184.55]) by aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with SMTP id <20050228115632.JXKO3971.aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@p2300> for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:56:32 +0000 Message-ID: <007201c51d8c$ab993a60$37b80150@p2300> From: "captbrian" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200502271724500058.0418698B@mail.zetnet.co.uk><005001c51cf8$524d6c40$10b80150@p2300> <200502281113330523.07EADBD4@mail.zetnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:57:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.250.162.17 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of ukonline.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Locator program Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) I do not tell others what to do but it has never been clear to me why radio amateurs need a separate system for defining geographical position from that used by the rest of the population unless it is designed to create something for people to collect. Lat Long tells everything to everyone with a definition of as fine as one chooses to use decimal points of minutes of arc. With a GPS I can discern the difference between the front and the back garden of a suburban house. What more? Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: John Rabson To: Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:13 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Locator program Thanks for the suggestion. Most of the people I shall be dealing with will be radio amateurs, but I raised the question because I have noticed, particularly on 5MHz, that people exchange locator references. 73 John G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 27/02/2005 at 18:15 captbrian wrote: >If you want to communicate with navigators in general and not just >radio-hams then , then Lat. Long. seems obvious in view of universal GPS >users > >Bryan > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: John Rabson >To: >Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 5:24 PM >Subject: LF: Locator program > > >Over the years I have encountered a number of locator systems: > >Latitude and longitude > >GB national grid references > >QRA locator > >QTH locator > >Georef > >Maidenhead > >I am planning some HF propagation experiments from underground and need to >know which locator I should be using for indicating my location in the UK. >If the answer is not NGR I would want to feed the latter into a computer >program. > >Suggestions, please? > >Regards, >John Rabson G3PAI