Return-Path: Received: (qmail 98460 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2005 11:33:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Jan 2005 11:33:49 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CraXp-0008Ju-3c for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:32:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CraXo-0008Jr-VB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:32:08 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CraZQ-000N4e-PN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:33:48 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CraYf-0007zK-BS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:33:01 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CraYe-0007zB-Uj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:33:00 +0000 Received: from [212.250.162.17] (helo=mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CraYc-0006jm-DM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:33:00 +0000 Received: from aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050120113235.PXTG14587.mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:32:35 +0000 Received: from captbrian ([80.1.84.75]) by aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with SMTP id <20050120113234.NQDC769.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@captbrian> for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:32:34 +0000 Message-ID: <003c01c4fee4$1a475ea0$4b540150@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c4feac$b818ce80$6401a8c0@eagles> <001f01c4fee1$a6b716d0$d7c7f9c3@preinstapdq0tf> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:35:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.250.162.17 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of ukonline.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 1.9 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.832 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Coil Winding, de VY1JA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) I scanned the whole of that page but all references to "spoler" seem to have become "unspolen" Bryan G3GVB ----- Original Message ----- From: Niels Rudberg Jørgensen To: Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:17 AM Subject: LF: Re: Coil Winding, de VY1JA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J. Allen" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 5:58 AM > Subject: LF: Coil Winding, de VY1JA > > > > LF, > > > > I have just spent three hours trying to find any practical information on > > the Web on how to wind a honeycomb coil at home. I can see pictures of > the > > finshed coils but without some step by step photos of how it was done, the > > pix of the finished product does no good here. > > > > There is no rush on this, because in the absence of information, I can use > > existing materials and make a less efficient single layer solenoid with > one > > diameter conductor spacing, which will get me on the air for now. > > > > Does anyone know where the honeycomb coil winding data can be found? > > > > J. > > > > > ~Hello! > Why honeycomb coil, basket weave etc? > In my humble opinion, the best way of making a high-Q coil or variometer > is to use the "pyramid" or "bank" winding method. > You may see the method mentioned in Terman, 1943-edition, pg. 84. > This method was used for decades by the manufacturers of e.g. marine radio > transmitters, primarily because it combines achievable high Q and modest > physical dimensions. > You may find detailed information on my home page: www.oz8nj.dk > This homepage is in danish language, but if you look after "spoler" > (=coils), > you will find a description in english and a number of photos. > BTW, talking of the separation of coil turns, do not believe in the > "one-diameter > separation", -- this idea is probable ok for short wave, but not in our > case. > I use RF Litz wire for my coils, I have, however seen old coils wound with > solid cotton-covered copper wire. It seems to me, that one should not > over-estimate the proximity effect. > 73 = > Niels, OZ8NJ+ > > >