Return-Path: Received: (qmail 64517 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2005 11:21:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Jan 2005 11:21:16 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CraLg-0005Ay-3Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:19:36 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CraLg-0005Av-03 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:19:36 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CraNH-0008sy-Tx for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:21:16 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CraKW-0006l0-19 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:18:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CraKV-0006kr-Lh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:18:23 +0000 Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk ([195.41.46.236]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CraKT-00069D-51 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:18:23 +0000 Received: from preinstapdq0tf (0xc3f9c7d7.hgnxr1.ras.tele.dk [195.249.199.215]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BC825EE057 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:17:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001f01c4fee1$a6b716d0$d7c7f9c3@preinstapdq0tf> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Niels_Rudberg_J=F8rgensen?= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c4feac$b818ce80$6401a8c0@eagles> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:17:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of post.tele.dk designates 195.41.46.236 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: Re: Coil Winding, de VY1JA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Allen" To: Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 5:58 AM Subject: LF: Coil Winding, de VY1JA > LF, > > I have just spent three hours trying to find any practical information on > the Web on how to wind a honeycomb coil at home. I can see pictures of the > finshed coils but without some step by step photos of how it was done, the > pix of the finished product does no good here. > > There is no rush on this, because in the absence of information, I can use > existing materials and make a less efficient single layer solenoid with one > diameter conductor spacing, which will get me on the air for now. > > Does anyone know where the honeycomb coil winding data can be found? > > J. > > ~Hello! Why honeycomb coil, basket weave etc? In my humble opinion, the best way of making a high-Q coil or variometer is to use the "pyramid" or "bank" winding method. You may see the method mentioned in Terman, 1943-edition, pg. 84. This method was used for decades by the manufacturers of e.g. marine radio transmitters, primarily because it combines achievable high Q and modest physical dimensions. You may find detailed information on my home page: www.oz8nj.dk This homepage is in danish language, but if you look after "spoler" (=coils), you will find a description in english and a number of photos. BTW, talking of the separation of coil turns, do not believe in the "one-diameter separation", -- this idea is probable ok for short wave, but not in our case. I use RF Litz wire for my coils, I have, however seen old coils wound with solid cotton-covered copper wire. It seems to me, that one should not over-estimate the proximity effect. 73 = Niels, OZ8NJ+