Return-Path: Received: (qmail 96621 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2005 11:54:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jan 2005 11:54:32 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CrxLW-000ICO-R3 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:53:01 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CrxLW-000ICG-DX for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:52:58 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CrxMz-000H8w-GR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:54:29 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CrxLb-0004Zn-3o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:53:03 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CrxLa-0004Ze-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:53:02 +0000 Received: from mail-public.northwestel.net ([198.235.201.66] helo=yk-pvtmailprd-01.internal.messaging) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CrxLY-0003Lq-76 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:53:02 +0000 Received: from yk-asavprd-02.northwestel.net ([172.19.112.41]) by yk-pvtmailprd-01.internal.messaging (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 Patch 1 (built Jan 28 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IAO00LO10ZU6XZ0@yk-pvtmailprd-01.internal.messaging> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 04:52:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yk-asavprd-02.northwestel.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0LBqfoT010376 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 04:52:41 -0700 Received: from yk-asavprd-02.northwestel.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (yk-asavprd-02 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09187-02 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 04:52:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from eagles (whthyt032-92.northwestel.net [205.234.32.92]) by yk-asavprd-02.northwestel.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j0LBqAW0010088 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 04:52:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:52:05 +0000 From: "J. Allen" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-id: <001601c4ffaf$a12913c0$6401a8c0@eagles> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at northwestel.net References: <41F0B245.10974.3969DA@localhost> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 198.235.201.66 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of northwestel.net X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: Coil Winding2, de VY1JA Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Mike, Alex and LF, I agree that spending my time on the antenna and ground would produce a more dramatic improvement, but it is winter in Yukon, and -30 outside.... I am trying to get my initial signal on the air with the existing HF tower and V-Beam antenna as an inverted L on 137, with a borrowed 200 W transmitter. In the spring, there is enuf material to put in a relatively good grounding system, improve the existing inverted L antenna and even install a loop to compare the inverted L with. That is why my request for information on winding a honeycomb loading coil is not a rush item. For now, I want to make the coil and do the rest of the station setup in a manner which balances performance with setup speed. The wire is #17 and measures 16 conductors close spaced in 2 cm. I know that this is a little bigger than the ARRL handbook, but it may be due to the thin layer of Formvar insulation on the wire. J.