Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32416 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 22:44:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 22:44:52 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CpwdT-000KI9-5C for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:43:11 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CpwdS-000KI1-Hw for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:43:10 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1Cpwf5-0002Up-5v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:44:51 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Cpwby-0000XV-RP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:41:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Cpwby-0000XM-FO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:41:38 +0000 Received: from mta207-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.118]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cpwbv-0004dE-Fx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:41:38 +0000 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by mta207-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050115224118.EEIL2405.mta207-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:41:18 +1300 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.86.67.224]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20050115224117.NQIE23571.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:41:17 +1300 Message-ID: <001401c4fb53$59f6f270$e901a8c0@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <006901c4fa2c$fc275e40$0702a8c0@parissn2> <41E847FE.8030107@usa.net> <001101c4faf8$ec28b260$53c9c354@pc2> <41E90E58.4020105@freenet.de> <41E91721.6060908@usa.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:41:25 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 210.86.15.118 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of xtra.co.nz X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: LF: CW-R and IF shift Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Alberto, Wolf and others, > I concur completely with what Wolf has said. Both Yaesu and Kenwood (and > I suspect Icom too) have the > rig switched to USB when using CW. No, it seems Icom designs use LSB for the "CW" mode. Certainly the Icom IC-R75 needs to use CW-R to faithfully translate the RF FSK to AFSK. It is easy to test a receiver, by using a signal generator as a test signal. Leave the receiver tuning alone and adjust the frequency of the signal generator, and it soon becomes apparent whether CW or CW-R setting is appropriate for the data mode of interest. It is mentally more challenging to use an existing carrier (or a fixed frequency signal generator) and tune the receiver to observe the change in sidetone, as that activity involves an "apparent reverse effect". Receivers with IF shift can slew the narrow IF passband (of a so-called CW filter) to the appropriate IF centre frequency for a data mode such as Jason. On receivers that have no readout of IF shift, it is a bit more tricky to set it for receiving a DX signal, as the desired signal (as detected and sent to the loudspeaker) may not be audible in the noise, in which case it is essential to pre-set the dial frequency and IF shift to be right on the expected frequency to be received. 73, Bob ZL2CA