Return-Path: Received: (qmail 46601 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2005 19:56:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Jan 2005 19:56:56 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CnMh0-00080G-LT for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:56:11 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CnMh0-00080C-HN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:56:10 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1CnMhi-000Bt0-0Y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:56:54 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CnMgS-0008PW-K7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:55:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CnMgS-0008PN-3R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:55:36 +0000 Received: from smarthost0.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.10]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnMgP-0000mk-P2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:55:36 +0000 Received: from tnt-2-151.easynet.co.uk ([195.40.196.151] helo=erica) by smarthost0.mail.uk.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 1CnMgH-0007k5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:55:25 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c4f275$b00612e0$97c428c3@erica> From: "g3ldo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <82.1ecc794c.2f0d0993@aol.com> <003401c4f581$8ba74cc0$93582850@dshack> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:53:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.135.6.10 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of ukonline.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,DATE_IN_PAST_96_XX=1.082 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Pre-amps on LF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_96_XX autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dave_Richardson said: ------------------- RE: Portable LF ATU article by G3LDO RadCom December 2003 In another posting, which I unfortunately deleted by mistake, it was suggested use of the above for matching to "short" antennas. I'd be very grateful to hear from anyone who's build this ATU and got it working satisfactorily. I can't get the LF Loading Circuit section of mine to tune-up at all, it's completely flat with any values of selected C. I suspect it's all down to my fabrication of the Loading Coil, ferrite used etc. so it'd be very helpful if I knew at least the value of inductance I should be aiming at for this particular cct. then I can mess about with number of turns, ferrites and so on... ------------------ I had to have several attempts to get coil tuned and matched. I filled the three-ferrite former with wire but it was still too high in frequency and I had wind a further layer on top covering half the former. If the frequency is too high it falls into the broadcast band, which is filtered out by the G0MRF rf amplifier filters . The quality and composition of ferrites from old transistor radios varies considerably so the only way to manage all these unforeseen variables is to put lots of tappings for both the antenna connection and the ampl;ifier connection (as Mike Dennison will attest from the early 73kHz receiving experiments). Tune up on the large signal on 138kHz initially. Regret unable to measure the inductance of the coil. Peter G3LDO