Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23542 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2004 18:12:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Dec 2004 18:12:17 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CjLmu-000OV0-Ot for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:09:44 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CjLmu-000OUx-MG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:09:40 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CjLpN-000PPC-Ku for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:12:13 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CjLo7-0003zr-VM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:10:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CjLo7-0003zi-Cn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:10:55 +0000 Received: from mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8] helo=mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CjLo5-0003pY-Pr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:10:55 +0000 Received: from aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20041228181048.XKEP15581.mta10-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:10:48 +0000 Received: from captbrian ([80.1.184.143]) by aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with SMTP id <20041228181047.KPZV15415.aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@captbrian> for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:10:47 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c4ed08$d581ee80$8fb80150@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <110.40001731.2f02e8b3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:09:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.250.162.8 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of ukonline.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_20_30=0.474,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Needless restrictions re : Trans Atlantic Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
But "They" have an implicit duty to regulate only for some demonstrable universally desirable purpose...otherwise it descends to :
 
"Don't do that !"
"Why?"
"Because We said so ,that's why"
 
Examples : The USA society and way of life is very very similar to that of UK
 
1 ]  In the UK the strict keeping of a log of transmissions and "contacts" is  mandatory . A licence may be revoked for failure to jump thro' this hoop.; it is regarded as an Important Thing.
 
In the USA no-one cares whether you keep a log or not. The fabric of society in USA is not exactly crumbling because of the absence of log-keeping rules. No more would it do so in UK. But still we have this chore thrust upon us.
 
 
 
2}  In the UK  the annual hassle of renewing a licence on payment of a fee with exchange of accompanying bits of paper is regarded as an essential. duty. Large numbers of clerks are employed shuffling this pieces of paper around.
 
In USA it is done every ten years ,free of charge, by the equivalent of exchanging emails...The fabric of society in USA etc ...[ see above]
 
Someone is enforcing needless rules just for the sake of it.......
 
Bryan
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Trans Atlantic

In a message dated 12/28/2004 11:13:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, dibene@usa.net writes:
And what if this "acknowledgment" is in its turn transmitted not directly addressed to the acknowledged station,
but in a form of a beacon message, reporting just a list of heard stations, with the relative signal strenghts?
If that sort of transmission is permitted in one's country, it should present little problem.  Broadcasting news of interest to the amateur community at large is sometimes permitted.  I suppose there could be some question whether reception of stations in another service is newsworthy to hams in general.  Clearly, though, it would not constitute a QSO.

>>> "I know, Your Honor, I was caught while trying to climb mirrors, but is this sport forbidden?"
 
It could be a reflection of one's character.  :-)
 
John