Return-Path: Received: (qmail 71074 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2004 11:32:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Dec 2004 11:32:41 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1ChR9e-000Ljc-J4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:29:15 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1ChR9e-000LjZ-Cg for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:29:14 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1ChRCx-000Ag9-Ks for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:32:39 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ChRBt-0005pb-4e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:31:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ChRBs-0005pS-OI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:31:32 +0000 Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1ChRBp-0001aS-6z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:31:32 +0000 Received: from altair ([147.197.200.45] helo=altair.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1ChRBX-0001Gh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:31:11 +0000 Received: from [147.197.164.230] (helo=RD40002) by altair.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ChRBW-0004Tz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:31:10 +0000 From: "james moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:31:09 -0000 Message-ID: <000001c4e8e2$e67b4df0$e6a4c593@RD40002> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected X-UH-MailScanner-From: j.r.moritz@herts.ac.uk X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 147.197.200.9 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of herts.ac.uk X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,DRASTIC_REDUCED=1.998 Subject: LF: RE: M0BMU mods for G0MRF 300 W Tx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=DRASTIC_REDUCED autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Dear Gary, LF Group, You need one without an air gap - the air gap will drastically reduce the winding inductance, unfortunately. There is nothing magical about the LOPT cores - I just used them because they were a suitable component available for free! The original specified cores should also work fine with the same number of turns. Try to keep the windings as compact as possible to minimise the leakage inductance. In theory, you will get less loss if the strands of enamelled wire are twisted together in small groups which are then twisted into bigger groups - the idea being that each strand is on the outside of the bundle for an equal fraction of the overall length, giving each strand an equal impedance and making the current distribution more even. But in this case, the main reason for doing it was because it is easier to wind a stranded wire than very thick solid wire - the "litz" construction can't hurt though. In my example of the G0MRF circuit, doing these mods led to increased power output (about 400W @ 37V if I recall), while at the same time the improved efficiency reduced the heating of the output transistors and output stage components in general. If you have an oscilloscope, you should see a cleaner waveform at the drains of the MOSFETs, although there will still be considerable switching spikes present. Good Luck with the mods, Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT Sent: 22 December 2004 20:44 To: LF (Rsgb LF Group) Cc: Jim Moritz (M0BMU) Subject: LF: M0BMU mods for G0MRF 300 W Tx Hi Jim & LF, I am about to carry out the M0BMU current-fed mods for the G0MRF 300 watt class D Tx. I have salvaged several cores from monitor flyback/line O/P transformers & they all have an air/di-electric gap on the round leg of the core. Is this OK or should I search for one with no gap?