Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10499 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2004 09:39:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2004 09:39:59 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CWAxm-000JZO-4k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:58:27 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CWAxm-000JZL-27 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:58:26 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1CWAft-000LK7-FR for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:39:57 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CWAdv-0005RR-Q0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:37:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CWAdv-0005RI-E4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:37:55 +0000 Received: from mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8] helo=mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CWAdr-0003Hu-VH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:37:55 +0000 Received: from aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20041122093742.YNYD1968.mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:37:42 +0000 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.116.83]) by aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20041122093742.ELDR1092.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:37:42 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:37:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <41A1B361.15727.60DCE7@localhost> In-reply-to: References: <002101c4d00d$58b00760$6507a8c0@Main> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-description: Mail message body X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of ntlworld.com designates 212.250.162.8 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1,TW_XD=0.077 Subject: RE: LF: Re: Re: Sunday activity report Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) > This weekend I was in Arkansas around 180 miles from East of XDW and > definite "fast" fades, periods were seen of around 30 secs > (presumably between the ground and sky waves) this was around 9pm CST > - Ive not seen this before and probably another manifestation of the > recovery phase after the storm? This distance seems too close? > Laurence KL1X/5 wd2xdw Several years ago, when a handful of UK stations were using loop antennas, I noted that their signals exhibited fading at shorter ranges than those using Marconis. At the time, I put it down to the loop producing more RF at a higher angle, but have no evidence to back that up. Mike, G3XDV http://www.apersonalguide.co.uk/lf/