Return-Path: Received: (qmail 83273 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2004 05:55:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Nov 2004 05:55:45 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CUfY0-0000V6-KW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:13:37 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CUfY0-0000Uw-Ea for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:13:36 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1CUfGi-00074W-9l for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 05:55:44 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CUfGD-0000d4-Vu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 05:55:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CUfGD-0000cv-K9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 05:55:13 +0000 Received: from mail.genesiswireless.com ([63.171.43.8] helo=ms.genesis-technology.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CUfG9-0002Tr-RO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 05:55:13 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (rev-65.165.20.91.genesiswireless.us [65.165.20.91]) by ms.genesis-technology.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iAI5sQkA015615 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 23:54:26 -0600 Message-ID: <419C39C1.9090302@genesiswireless.us> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 23:57:21 -0600 From: WE0H Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 63.171.43.8 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of genesiswireless.us X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no, Subject: Re: LF: Loading Coils Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Chris, Put up an Ashlock loop and forget about losses with trees or wires or coils or houses or rain or snow or people or animals or anything else. Just ask Laurence how well they work or maybe Mal would like to comment? ;-) 73's, -- Mike WE0H WD2XGI OSBORN, Chris wrote: > > Hello LF Group > > Many thanks for all comments and advice - most interesting. > > I drilled out the wooden dowels on the loading coil and replaced >them with lengths of 15 mm plastic water pipe. > I was unable to obtain plastic rod at short notice and my XYL >wouldn't let me have her knitting needles ! > The pipe was not really rigid enough and bent slightly but was >sufficient to prove the experiment. > With this new arrangement I obtained my personal best Q of about >250.. > > Placing the new coil in the aerial circuit made a slight improvement >to the aerial current - from about 1.2 A to 1.5 A > I would have thought that as most of the losses were in the coil a >bigger current improvement would have been achieved. > > I share my office with some young electronics engineers and was >surprised that they know very little about RF inductors or Q factor. > It must be a dying art ! > > My next improvement will be to raise the 'droopy' end of my aerial, >presently at a height of about 5 metres > Unfortunately two neighbours' telephone wires pass over my garden >where the mast was to be situated. > Any suggestions - should I go over the wires or keep well clear of >them and cut a length off the aerial ? > Presumably I can't get the phone company to move their wires !! > > 73 Chris G3XIZ > >