Return-Path: Received: (qmail 75056 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2004 17:44:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Nov 2004 17:44:39 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CP2iH-000PyZ-8T for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:44:58 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CP2iH-000PyW-3c for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:44:57 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CP2hy-0006fj-Gi for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:44:38 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CP2gn-0005Yw-Vu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:43:25 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CP2gn-0005Yn-Jl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:43:25 +0000 Received: from smtp.bulldogdsl.com ([212.158.192.11]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CP2gk-0004Mi-1t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:43:25 +0000 Received: from AUG2004 (host-84-9-85-33.bulldogdsl.com [84.9.85.33]) by smtp.bulldogdsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2811DFD70 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 17:43:21 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <003801c4c103$70eab870$2101a8c0@AUG2004> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4186F5A2.9080706@zen.co.uk> <001701c4c0fa$9429c960$48657ad5@derekm3uttnxf9> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 17:43:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.158.192.11 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of pncl.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no, Subject: Re: LF: Rugby Loran station Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Atter" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 4:39 PM Subject: Re: LF: Rugby Loran station > Stewart, > > Re : Loran Blankers : > > It is not too difficult to build a blanker for Loran. I made one in the > early days of the 136khz band to try it in comparison with antenna nulling > techniques and it did work quite well. It used a diode gate in the RF > signal > input fed by an adjustable width monostable fed in turn by a delay equal > to > the Loran pulse interval triggered via an adjustable signal threshold. The > diode gate was in effect operated by the previous pulse burst to overcome > the problem of circuit delays and rise-time effects. From what I remember, > I > found it just as effective to blank the whole of the pulse burst rather > than > try to blank individual Loran pulses. The technique was similar to that > used > on HF to combat the old Russian "Woodpecker" over-the -horizon radar. The > diode gate reduced the Loran pulses only down to the average background > band > noise level rather than right down the to receiver noise floor so as to > minimise modulation of ordinary band noise. In the end. I actually went > for > antenna nulling as being more flexible in also being potentially able to > null other sources of QRM.such as CFH etc. when it was on. > > 73, Derek Atter > > Yes, the series of 8 pulses only lasts 8 mS so even if you cut out an 8 mS hole there's still 92% of other signals left if the rep rate is 100 mS. Unfortunately if you get two strong signals as you will with both Lessay and Rugby you'll lose another 8% and have only 86% left! However, probably enough using QRSS. Walter G3JKV.