Return-Path: Received: (qmail 96684 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2004 16:40:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Nov 2004 16:40:52 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CP1xK-000OL2-KI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 16:56:28 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CP1xK-000OKn-8a for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 16:56:26 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1CP1iE-000F2g-FN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 16:40:50 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CP1hC-0005GF-OA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 16:39:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CP1hC-0005G6-C2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 16:39:46 +0000 Received: from smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.197]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CP1h5-00047m-B7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 16:39:46 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO derekm3uttnxf9) (datter@btinternet.com@213.122.101.72 with login) by smtp807.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2004 16:39:32 -0000 Message-ID: <001701c4c0fa$9429c960$48657ad5@derekm3uttnxf9> From: "Derek Atter" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4186F5A2.9080706@zen.co.uk> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:39:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.197 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btinternet.com X-Spam-Score: 4.0 (++++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=1.052,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=2.8 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby Loran station Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Stewart, Re : Loran Blankers : It is not too difficult to build a blanker for Loran. I made one in the early days of the 136khz band to try it in comparison with antenna nulling techniques and it did work quite well. It used a diode gate in the RF signal input fed by an adjustable width monostable fed in turn by a delay equal to the Loran pulse interval triggered via an adjustable signal threshold. The diode gate was in effect operated by the previous pulse burst to overcome the problem of circuit delays and rise-time effects. From what I remember, I found it just as effective to blank the whole of the pulse burst rather than try to blank individual Loran pulses. The technique was similar to that used on HF to combat the old Russian "Woodpecker" over-the -horizon radar. The diode gate reduced the Loran pulses only down to the average background band noise level rather than right down the to receiver noise floor so as to minimise modulation of ordinary band noise. In the end. I actually went for antenna nulling as being more flexible in also being potentially able to null other sources of QRM.such as CFH etc. when it was on. 73, Derek Atter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stewart Bryant" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:49 AM Subject: Re: LF: Rugby Loran station > > > Stewart G3YSX wrote: > > > How diffiicult would it be to make a Loran gate to put in front of theRX? > After all the station is fixed so you must, in principle, know when the > pulses are due. > > Stewart G3YSX > > >