Return-Path: Received: (qmail 55792 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2004 22:02:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Oct 2004 22:02:01 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CIwkD-0008Cs-K5 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 23:09:45 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CIwkD-0008Cp-Ha for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 23:09:45 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CIwci-000Jbn-Ki for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 22:02:00 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CIwcP-0003sx-1C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 23:01:41 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CIwcO-0003so-LH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 23:01:40 +0100 Received: from smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.141]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CIwcL-0006SM-1o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 23:01:40 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Dell5150) (rsgb?lf?group@blacksheep.org@81.153.63.170 with poptime) by smtp804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2004 22:01:31 -0000 From: "Dave Pick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 23:01:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-reply-to: <74A399A6.2C82F998.00041B63@aol.com> Thread-Index: AcSzw3g1FR1wZxcSQ7yChcKg0iHtBwACBbrg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.141 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of picks.force9.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1,SARE_MSGID_EMPTY=1.666 Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: RE: 1 W ERP on 137 in Germany Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Thanks Wolf. You did better than Google's translation tool! 73 Dave G3YXM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of DL4YHF@aol.com Sent: 16 October 2004 22:02 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: 1 W ERP on 137 in Germany Hi Dave and group, The document is at http://www.darc.de/aktuell/voinfo/vor151004.html Well, is it already in force ? The passage ... > [..] Die neuen im wesentlichen für die Funkamateure vorteilhaften > Bestimmungen sollen noch in die neue Amateurfunkverordnung, > insbesondere die Anlage 1, eingearbeitet werden. [..] Crude translation: (the new, mostly positive regulations for radio amateurs shall be implemented in the new ham radio regulation, especially appendix 1, [..] ) Well, sounds a bit like "yet to come", but read on.. > Die Frequenzbereichszuweisungsplanverordnung auf der Grundlage des TKG > ist am 7. Oktober 2004 in Kraft getreten. > Sie enthält Verbesserungen für die Funkamateure, wie beispielsweise > [...] Leistung von 1 W ERP im Bereich 135,7 bis 137,8 kHz (LW) Sounds better, like the good news about LF are in force already. My attempt to translate the above, keeping the 40-letter word in its entire uncensored prettiness : The frequency-range-assignment-plan-regulation based on the telecommunication law has come into power on October 7th, 2004. I It contains improvements for radio amateurs, for example [...] 1 W ERP in the range 135.7 to 137.8 kHz. The "most significant hyhen" is usually the one before the last word, here between plan and regulation. Read the thing from left to right - it's primarily a "regulation". What it regulates is a "plan", the plan is the assignment of a range of frequencies. Phew - can simple things be put in such complicated word in other languages too ? Someone please put me right if this is totally wrong (blame it on the red wine) - Walter DJ2LF still on the reflector ? Best regards, Wolf DL4YHF.