Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1334 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2004 12:54:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Oct 2004 12:54:54 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CJAlb-0002NK-JY for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:08:07 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CJAlb-0002NG-Cp for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:08:07 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CJAYn-0003k1-DZ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:54:53 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CJAYT-0007Jw-3Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:54:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CJAYS-0007Jn-N7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:54:32 +0100 Received: from hugo.fen-net.de ([212.204.115.10] ident=root) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CJAYP-0001bC-98 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:54:32 +0100 Received: from PCVONWALTER (dialin-nbg-101.fen-net.de [212.204.116.101]) by hugo.fen-net.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i9HCqPQo002864 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:52:25 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <001601c4b449$78019b40$fe79a8c0@PCVONWALTER> From: "Walter Staubach" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:01:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by hugo.fen-net.de id i9HCqPQo002864 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.204.115.10 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fen-net.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no, Subject: LF: Re: RE: 1 W ERP on 137 in Germany Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hallo Wolf and others, yes, I´m still on the reflector. This 40-letter-word should be given to the guinness book. It is mad and a sample for misusing the German language. If I would have used a word like this in a composition at school I´m sure the teacher would have given a 5. (1=very good, 6=nothing). Nobody needs this word, nobody uses it - only an authority can do. Let us say "frequency plan", that will do. But nevertheless: Only the title is bad, but the content is good for the German hams. 73 Walter DJ2LF -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: DL4YHF@aol.com An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Datum: Samstag, 16. Oktober 2004 23:01 Betreff: LF: RE: 1 W ERP on 137 in Germany >Hi Dave and group, > >The document is at > >http://www.darc.de/aktuell/voinfo/vor151004.html > >Well, is it already in force ? The passage ... > >> [..] Die neuen im wesentlichen für die Funkamateure >> vorteilhaften Bestimmungen sollen noch in die neue >> Amateurfunkverordnung, insbesondere die Anlage 1, >> eingearbeitet werden. [..] > >Crude translation: > >(the new, mostly positive regulations for radio amateurs shall be implemented in the new ham radio regulation, especially appendix 1, [..] ) > >Well, sounds a bit like "yet to come", but read on.. > >> Die Frequenzbereichszuweisungsplanverordnung auf der >> Grundlage des TKG ist am 7. Oktober 2004 in Kraft getreten. >> Sie enthält Verbesserungen für die Funkamateure, wie >> beispielsweise [...] >> Leistung von 1 W ERP im Bereich 135,7 bis 137,8 kHz (LW) > >Sounds better, like the good news about LF are in force already. My attempt to translate the above, keeping the 40-letter word in its entire uncensored prettiness : > >The frequency-range-assignment-plan-regulation based on the telecommunication law has come into power on October 7th, 2004. I >It contains improvements for radio amateurs, for example [...] 1 W ERP in the range 135.7 to 137.8 kHz. > >The "most significant hyhen" is usually the one before the last word, here between plan and regulation. Read the thing from left to right - it's primarily a "regulation". What it regulates is a "plan", the plan is the assignment of a range of frequencies. >Phew - can simple things be put in such complicated word in other languages too ? Someone please put me right if this is totally wrong (blame it on the red wine) - Walter DJ2LF still on the reflector ? > >Best regards, >Wolf DL4YHF. > >