Return-Path: Received: (qmail 95763 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2004 15:28:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 6 Sep 2004 15:28:57 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1C4LRU-000IsL-8W for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 16:30:04 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1C4LRU-000IsG-5Z for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 16:30:04 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1C4LQO-000LQ6-RG for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 16:28:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1C4LPq-0008St-8v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 16:28:22 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1C4LPp-0008Sk-TG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 16:28:21 +0100 Received: from gwout.thalesgroup.com ([195.101.39.227]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1C4LPm-0001u8-AW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 16:28:21 +0100 Received: from thalescan.corp.thales (200.3.2.3) by GWOUT.thalesgroup.com (NPlex 6.5.026) id 413A8915000669E8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:29:05 +0200 Received: from hiplex.tsbh.thales ([10.33.19.4]) by thalescan with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 17:27:53 +0200 Received: from hiplex.tsbh.thales (10.33.21.5) by hiplex.tsbh.thales (NPlex 6.5.026) id 4118A4AC000B3E81 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:27:53 +0200 Received: from complex.tcfr.thales ([202.3.3.26]) by hiplex with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 17:27:53 +0200 Received: from complex.tcfr.thales (202.3.3.26) by complex.tcfr.thales (NPlex 6.5.026) id 40E584880014388D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:26:48 +0200 Received: from NODALNET.clb.tcfr.thales ([146.11.5.4]) by complex with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 17:26:48 +0200 Received: by NODALNET.clb.tcfr.thales with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:27:53 +0200 Message-ID: <8840D182F8BB7540B173D2B1FA0CA9AB034FEA52@argos.clb.tcfr.thales> From: Jean-Louis.RAULT@fr.thalesgroup.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:28:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 195.101.39.227 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fr.thalesgroup.com X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,NO_REAL_NAME=0.285,RCVD_IN_RFCI=0.1 Subject: LF: RE: Re: Save energy, but generate QRM ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit > About three years ago I tentitively tried out one of these > energy saving > bulbs and didn't find any interference throughout the LF/HF > spectrum and > have, over a period introduced more into the house. These > bulbs do save a > lot of energy, which is a consideration with cost of energy > in this country. > So perhaps we could draw up a list of low energy bulbs that > don't cause > interference. > > Most of the bulbs I have are cheap ones from Woolworths and > are described as > BIAX V257 made by GE Lighting. > Peter, G3LDO That's good news, Peter. I tried three bulbs (same model) and got each time the same problem. This means that the issue comes from the design, not from a specific faulty piece. The peak of QRM for the LP16 Philips bulbs is around 137 kHz, slowly drifting when temperature increases. Maybe your own GE BIAX V257 bulbs radiate frequencies combs which are far enough from our 137 kHz band. 73 JL F6AGR