Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6581 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2004 11:41:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Sep 2004 11:41:22 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CAS2F-0004J4-6A for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:45:15 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CAS2F-0004J1-3Q for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:45:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CARyT-000HUs-AP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:41:21 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CARxY-0007kz-2i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:40:24 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CARxX-0007kq-Fr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:40:23 +0100 Received: from h13.rdg.cp.net ([209.228.29.63] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CARxS-0004wi-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:40:23 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.228.218) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.0.030.2) id 414F722A000757FB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:40:11 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c4a136$47bb9c40$dae4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c49ff2$736ad620$c9e5fc3e@l8p8y6> <009701c4a09d$32140920$4c540150@captbrian> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:35:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 209.228.29.63 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of virgin.net X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,DATE_IN_PAST_12_24=0.385,HTML_30_40=0.809,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: Re: PORTADYNE Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
 
----- Original Message -----
From: captbrian
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 1:10 PM
Subject: LF: Re: PORTADYNE

You should be able to make out the circuit just by looking at the underside of chassis. 
 
 I thought all G3's could draw the circuit of a simple 4 valve TRF rx from memory and first principles having built several as teenagers ?
 
You are correct I could rebuild it from memory without any cct info but I want to put it back to the original cct.
My first RX built was a 3 valve TRF around 1952 and it worked first time !!!!!!!
War surplus radios then appeared and I modified just about all that were available at the time!!! both RX and TX
I have met some G3's that could not solder two wires together, nor have a QSO using CW. Where do you fit in ?
My first rigs were built using a soldering iron heated on a primus stove, out in the wild open spaces in TYRONE.
 
 
 
 
 One of the v. condensers is almost certainly the "reaction"  control.   [positive feedback in modern terms ] although the same result could be obtained by the variometer you describe.
 
Not a reaction control. Both variable condensers are connected to the main tuning dial.
 
Start with loudspeaker leads (high impedance in series with the anode of output stage) one will got to output valve anode. the grid of that will take you (via condenser) to anode of audio stage and the grid of audio stage to the detector valve.
 
Bryan G3GVB
----- Original Message -----
From: hamilton mal
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 4:48 PM
Subject: LF: PORTADYNE

    Hi All.
Thanks to the response about the Portadyne radio. Here are the answers to the questions asked.
Tech details:
 
4 valves
 
Battery leads consist of 2 leads poss LT,  2 more for HT and a couple of others poss bias. The set is so old that the leads have virtually disentegrated along with the internal wiring on the chassis.
 
2 independent tuning condensers, each with own knob each side of cylinderal dial on top middle of RX facia, to left is on/off
 switch and to the right is what looks like a small variometer that would appear to interact with the loop antenna winding.
(looks like a lollipop) The dial has lost its markings so cannot identify any anything, would not be freq or wavelength because its so narrow. Possibly just graduations.
 
There is a very crude loudspeaker to the front of cabinet and on the outside there is a screw adjustment about the centre of the speaker for some sort of sensitivity adjustment I suppose.
 
The cabinet is wooden 15 inches high and 14 inches wide. The front appearance is fretted and flaired. The controls are under a lift up pannel on top of the cabinet.
 
There are no coils except what appears to be a choke type inductor and the frame aerial winding around the inside of the cabinet.
 
This would be a TRF type radio with a RF stage, top of the range in its time !!!!
I expect is must be one of the first valve type radios and some of you old timers will know its exact age and maybe have a cct for it.
 
Thanks for the 11 replies showing a lot of interest, it probably covers MF and LF, the tuning is odd ball with both condensers moving the dial independently.
 
The valve bases seem small compared to the UX5 and UX7 type but similar pin displacement.
 
There could be a pint or a wee whiskey for the first one to come up with a cct diagram
 
The cabinet is in good condx but the chassis is corroded but not too bad, the wiring has just about gone.
 
More info welcome.
 
de Mal/G3KEV