Return-Path: Received: (qmail 44142 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2004 09:51:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Aug 2004 09:51:56 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BzuWw-000BoP-6m for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:57:23 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BzuWw-000BoM-3s for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:57:22 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BzuRe-00092u-RN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:51:54 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BzuRL-0003at-2m for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:51:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BzuRK-0003ak-NR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:51:34 +0100 Received: from virus-out.ttyl.com ([193.212.240.200] helo=scan.telenor.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1BzuRH-00064y-7E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:51:34 +0100 Received: from tns-fbu-22-208.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.90] [134.47.162.90]) by scan.telenor.net with ESMTP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:51:15 +0200 Received: from tns-fbu-22-213.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.191]) by tns-fbu-22-208.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:51:16 +0200 Received: from TNS-FBU-2E-006.corp.telenor.no ([134.47.162.186]) by tns-fbu-22-213.corp.telenor.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:51:16 +0200 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:51:16 +0200 Message-Id: Thread-Topic: Key Clicks Thread-Index: AcSKh9oQNQVb1CxFQQq0zGZHTgjB0wAAJNhw From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Aug 2004 09:51:16.0276 (UTC) FILETIME=[105ADF40:01C48A89] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 193.212.240.200 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of telenor.com X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,NO_REAL_NAME=0.285 Subject: LF: RE: CW Modulator to avoid Key Clicks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Have experimented very much improving key-clicks in the 80's, such "AM modulator" for CW-transmitter is shown on my page http://home.online.no/~la8ak/d31.htm The modulator is driven from a lowpassfilter. In this case the exciter of PYE Westminster (or T30FM) is keyed and the PA is supposed to be quasi linear (BGY36 power module for the application) 73 Jan-Martin --- J M Nøding, LA8AK Telefon 9077-7126 (QTH: 0047-380-87178) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Hugh M0WYE Sent: 25. august 2004 11:33 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Key Clicks Good morning all, I keyed my original LF TX with a relay - crude, but it got me on the air. I know many designs just filter the keying waveform to "round off the corners" of the envelope. But I read that the best envelope shape is a "Gaussian waveform". This produces the smallest sidebands. [ http://fermi.la.asu.edu/w9cf/articles/click/click.html and lots of other stuff ] RC and LC filter circuits produce exponential waveforms, although the waveform diagrams that accompany these circuits in the texts often make then look as though they produce a gaussian waveform. My question is ... Is there a circuit that will produce a nice "gaussian wavform" that I could feed into an AM modulator to produce really clean CW - or is there no such thing ? 73 Hugh M0WYE