Return-Path: Received: (qmail 54873 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2004 09:12:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Aug 2004 09:12:24 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BwdbT-0000Wy-0d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:16:31 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BwdbS-0000Wt-P4 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:16:30 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BwdXT-000DMw-2Y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:12:23 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BwdWI-0003G3-Um for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:11:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BwdWI-0003Fu-Gf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:11:10 +0100 Received: from rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.42]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1BwdWE-00030J-Dv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:11:10 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1331D71A2 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:11:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.71]) by rusty.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEDB1D71A1 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:10:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by octavianus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9819CAEE34 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:10:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20040816110946.0214daf8@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:19:01 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <41200103.8010104@genesiswireless.us> References: <411F7187.2E73988A@att.net> <411F7502.18987.E57FAA@localhost> <411F7187.2E73988A@att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 134.58.240.42 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fys.kuleuven.ac.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: QRSS origin Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Mike,

very tricky.
Assuming one accepts evolution there was an egg before there was a chicken. But the egg wasn't a chicken-egg (it was the egg of some kind of pre-chicken). The first chicken-egg however was laid by the first chicken. So the egg was there before the chicken but the chicken was there before the chicken-egg.
For those who don't accept evolution it more simple : the chicken is first mentioned in Noë's arch, the chicken-egg at the Last Supper. So the chicken was there first.

Now back to LF ...

73, Rik ON7YD

At 19:34 15/08/2004 -0500, you wrote:

I vote for the chicken. Where else would the egg come from? :-D

Later,

-- 
Mike
WE0H
WD2XGI

Dexter McIntyre W4DEX wrote:

Mike Dennison wrote:

I originated the term QRSS many years ago in an e-mail to
this group. 

The helpful addition of the number to denote the dot length
came much later when slower speeds became popular for
working DX, but I don't know its origin.

I recall a discussion about how to best specify the QRSS speed on the
Lowfer mail list.  This must have been over 5 years ago.  I
looked for
the message archives on qth.net but the messages prior to 2000 are not
there.  John, W1TAG, was the first I remember to use the QRSS(#)
term. 
About the same time Alberto released a new version of Argo or Spectran
which included the QRSS speed.  Also I don't know which came first,
the
chicken or the egg.

W4DEX