To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <30.5cec4476.2e422ade@aol.com> <004a01c478e1$ffab2f00$5eeafc3e@l8p8y6> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 19:17:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.869,HTML_20_30=0.474,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1,TW_GV=0.077 Subject: Re: LF: CW and other modes Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

"All that is needed is dedication and some work and not depend on the LAZY MAN'S approach."

Mal

Firstly, I think anyone who has the time and energy to build and operate a LF station in any mode is certainly NOT lazy...

Secondly, welcome to the 21st century where the younger generation are mastering modern skills and in my case the right of passage of learning CW to join this fraternity.

Lastly, have you mastered C or Assembly or even the basics of computer operation beyond creating pointless email? If not don't be so LAZY and put some of the time you spend wasting ours to use to learn them then create some software to share with others...

73 Scott

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From: hamilton mal

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 3:28 PM

Subject: Re: LF: CW and other modes

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From: G4gvw@aol.com

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:04 PM

Subject: Re: LF: CW and other modes

Why do you need to go to all this trouble when a competent CW operator can DO BETTER. For those that do not or cannot master CW, start learning. This is the most sensible and most cost efficient way to approach the business. No expensive computers or other devices needed.

All that is needed is dedication and some work and not depend on the LAZY MAN'S approach.

As a start John, we might have to define our terms as to what is acceptable as "speech transmission"!

Dependant upon the defined term we can commence with a series of logical steps toward such a goal.

At the "starter" end there is perhaps the simple "Voice-to-code, Code-to-voice" protocol of speech recognition to keyer (morse or other) and the various demod possibilities with the attendant condition that one might call "CQ" into one's mic. today, and be attendant upon one's receiving apparatus for a speech reply sometime during the following week! The thing starts to take on interesting possibilities if it is acceptable to involve networking infrastructure with only some of the task being allocated to the RF path at LF.

However, I believe that chucking these questions and ideas up in the air for all to catch and play with is what will prompt experimentation and potential solution(s).

"Is there somebody out there ?" is a whole sentence and, as we are all aware, requires very few data bits to be identified as such in innumerable languages without complicated translation.

Lateral thinking might, therefore, suggest that "speech" should be redefined when "transmission" at narrow bandwidths is invoked. This is more or less what we are doing today - conveying sense and meaning. Your question may in fact be posing as a whole range of problems to whet our appetites!

Pat g4gvw