Return-Path: Received: (qmail 89954 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2004 18:15:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Aug 2004 18:15:47 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BsQLN-0004ZK-ET for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 19:18:29 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BsQLN-0004ZH-C7 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 19:18:29 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BsQIl-000PUF-6N for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 18:15:47 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BsQHX-0003zZ-Pq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 19:14:31 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BsQHW-0003zH-US for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 19:14:30 +0100 Received: from h11.rdg.cp.net ([209.228.29.61] helo=n064.sc1.cp.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BsQHS-0007OU-Ru for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 19:14:30 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 (62.252.234.94) by n064.sc1.cp.net (7.0.030.2) id 410F997300039875 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:14:21 +0000 Message-ID: <004b01c478e2$011c7240$5eeafc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <016901c47a00$8579d7c0$af32f7c2@johnb5a82ea1a4> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 23:31:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Re: CW and other modes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rabson" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:49 AM Subject: LF: CW and other modes > A few thoughts on why we are doing this: > > It seems well established that, if you (i) have enough real estate to put up > a mast or masts of useful height and install a good earthing system and (ii) > live in a quiet location, it is relatively easy to work interesting > distances using hand-speed CW. I believe Mal has shown this. > > For many of us, none of the above desirable conditions obtains, but by > collaborating with one another we have accumulated a body of knowledge of > various techniques which enable us to make a better job of communicating in > unpromising circumstances. People have worked distances which, when our LF > allocations were first released, seemed impossible. If we had been able to > borrow a redundant antenna at GBR, working across the Atlantic with it would > have been a fine achievement but it would not have been anything like as > great an achievement as doing so from a domestic garden. > > I feel we should avoid becoming obsessed with DX in the sense of distance. > The abbreviation also has a connotation of difficulty. As people may be > aware, my main interest in LF is for underground communications. I would be > delighted if I could work through two or three kilometres of limestone on > 136 or 87kHz (the latter being a common cave radio frequency) using SSB. > Currently we have achieved something like half that. > > We should not decry technical aids such as computers. Sometimes they make > things possible which otherwise just cannot be done. People doing > moon-bounce or meteor-scatter seem happy to use such things (it is a long > time since I heard complaints about people using high-speed tape recorders > when working MS). Why should such devices be unacceptable at LF? > > Finally, for those who feel that we have reached a dead end, may I suggest a > challenge? > > Analogue speech transmission in the form of single sideband has been used in > the amateur service for more than 50 years. It is time we found something > that is less greedy of bandwidth, preferably something that would work > within a 100Hz channel so as to allow amateurs whose LF licenses limit their > bandwidth to take part. I doubt is there is anything available or in the pipe line to beat CW when it comes to B/Width and conveying a message the most economical way. > > 73 > John G3PAI > > >