Return-Path: Received: (qmail 77883 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2004 14:59:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Aug 2004 14:59:18 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1C1ncp-000Ij9-SI for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:59:16 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1C1ncp-000Ij6-PO for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:59:15 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1C1ncr-000NfD-Qo for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:59:17 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1C1ncJ-0002tF-Nj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:58:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1C1ncJ-0002t6-Bw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:58:43 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.139]) by relay.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.41) id 1C1ncG-0005je-E8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:58:43 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (Alan.Melia@213.122.117.252 with login) by smtp802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2004 14:58:34 -0000 Message-ID: <002001c48ea1$d3a4faa0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:58:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 217.12.12.139 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of btinternet.com X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: LF: Water softeners (was Rugue DVD) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Hi Brian, I would hope none one on this group would be so gullible. There is absolutely no scientific evidence for their claims. The crystals are balanced ...no net charge, and the resonances of the lattice are in the GHz range not at LF. You cant "change the shape of crystals" it is a function of the atom sizes and the electronic bonding. I have noticed a marked reduction in limescale formation here in East Anglia, a very hard water area....but its due to blending by the water company. No one gets pure bore-water anymore but has it blended with surface stored water. I also dont "over-boil" the water in my kettle and rinse it out regularly. We once appraoched the technical bods at Anglian Water and they were a bit bemused by it.....but said "If it really worked that well....dont you think we would have a B****y big one on every water tower ??" Their success is just a measure of the poor scientific and technical knowledge of the average UK school leaver (despite to so called inprovement in GCSE standards) The is O-level chemistry, at least that's what it was called 50 years ago....School Cert in your day Bryan ?? One the same score there was a guy doing a bomb selling cheap (10p) magnets for £5 round here to improve your gas central heating efficiency. He demonstrated them by putting one beside his gas cigarette-lighter and showing how much bigger the flame became !! Of course you know why....?? Out American friends call it "snake oil"........ Cheers de Alan G3NYK