Return-Path: Received: (qmail 94969 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2004 21:23:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Jul 2004 21:23:48 -0000 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BkUlg-000LaB-Q2 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:24:52 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BkUkc-0001Nb-05 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:23:46 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BkUkD-0002Ru-1o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:23:21 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BkUkC-0002Rl-Lq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:23:20 +0100 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BkUk9-0000o1-4u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:23:20 +0100 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp02166593pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net[68.83.127.219]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20040713212308014004b1cve>; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:23:09 +0000 From: Steve Dove To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:23:06 -0000 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Organization: d s p In-Reply-To: <40F2CF45.30049.6CA6CC@localhost> Message-Id: <2UQHFXT742W54RLMH21WSQLA65ZRLYV.40f452ba@Charlie_Drake> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: Re: LF: Receivers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Mike, Icom R-75: 'Consumer Reports' and 'Which?' magazine four-star best buy. As has been mentioned, the R-75 works very well out of the box at LF, and has become a fave amongst 'Lowfers' over here. I have a couple and they're mainstays for the 'Grabulators'. Further to other remarks, under software control the AGC can be made 'Very Fast', intended for use during scanning as a poor man's spectrum analyser. But it is quite useful as an alternative to turning the AGC off and letting the receiver clip/saturate on static crashes - 'Argo' seems to make nicer plots under 'Very Fast'. The receiver uses a single lowpass filter for 1.6MHz and below - no transition at 500kHz-ish. There is a fixed attenuator in this path of nominally 3dB, presumably just to secure a sane source impedance for the filter. However, its removal makes considerably more difference than that with highly reactive and hi-Z LF-ey antennas - the input impedance of the first mixer is probably quite a bit higher than 50R. No obvious nasty side-effects from the attenuator's removal and is so considered a plus. Inrad's 125Hz filter makes for a well worthwhile 'microscope'; for most circumstances if the radio is in a house the TCXO is not worth it; the DSP option is useless for LF; the noise blanker is amazing - allowing plots to be made under lighting-dimmer noise if need be. Kenwood TS-440: Has a discrete front-end filter-set for 500kHz and below, with no fixed attenuator and is very sensitive even down to 100kHz. Optional filter (500Hz or 270Hz Kenwood, 400Hz or 250Hz Inrad) a must. Ho-hum noise blanker. Recommended - circuitry and performance almost identical to the highly- regarded TS-850. Kenwood TS-140: A real surprise for an 'entry-level' radio. Very lively down to 200kHz, sensitivity dropping off towards 100kHz but still adequately sensitive at 136kHz - in fact this one here has been sitting collecting dust plotting DCF-39 for however long now. Same front-end filter as 1.6MHz and below, but below 500kHz the fixed attenuator is switched out - thank you Kenwood! There is tons of room to kluge in a <500kHz filter in that position. IC-781: Very good at LF. Just a bit too much radio for the job! IC-751a: Very sensitive at LF, but d r i f t s way too much for QRSS, and so can't be recommended except for a band-cruiser. Hope this is helpful. Cheers, Steve 07/12/04 16:49:57, "Mike Dennison" wrote: >I am compiling a list of receivers and transceivers suitable >for 136kHz.