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Hmmmm

broadcasters want omni coverage so a loop

really wouldnt work in this application

however for Amateur work they would appear to work

quite well,, The proof is in the pudding where a TX at

1 watt input provides good coverage,,, if it weren't for TX loops

folk with small lots and shade trees ,,,LF activity would certainly suffer

But verticals do work after a fashion

HAR

Bob K3DJC

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 02:26:21 +0100 "hamilton mal" <g3kev.ham@virgin.net> writes:

For those that do not know. Research around Europe has shown that VERTICALS are the only antennas suitable for Transmitting on LF. Loops are fine for Receiving, little or large but the bigger the better. Who has ever heard of a LF broadcasting station using loops for TX.

73 de G3KEV