Return-Path: Received: (qmail 92973 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2004 19:57:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jul 2004 19:57:11 -0000 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BnNDZ-000Et6-B0 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:57:33 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BnNDB-0003O0-8w for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:57:09 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BnNCn-0003Ek-8Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:56:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BnNCm-0003Eb-Sr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:56:44 +0100 Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com ([62.253.162.42]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BnNCj-0007lK-Gc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:56:44 +0100 Received: from captbrian ([80.1.84.187]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040721195508.HQHK8666.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@captbrian> for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:55:09 +0100 Message-ID: <05e401c46f5d$24e75ac0$22540150@captbrian> From: "captbrian" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002f01c46df8$a3fcfec0$72cdfc3e@l8p8y6> <005901c46e86$99e744c0$3401a8c0@JKA> <000101c46ec1$5e3e4820$69d0fc3e@l8p8y6> <004301c46f53$26dfdaf0$3401a8c0@JKA> <1090437156.40fec024dec3a@webmail.telus.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:58:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=1.052,RCVD_IN_SORBS=0.1 Subject: Re: LF: Loops v Verticals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) Where is Scarborough and what is it's prefix? G3GVB ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Tilley, VE7TIL To: Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 8:12 PM Subject: Re: LF: Loops v Verticals > Seems Mal has forgotten the primary purpose behind amatuer radio 'self > learning' NOT 'self promotion.' Thankfully we have many others are willing to > share and help us new to the craft to learn and enjoy this hobby of hobbies > and contribute in a positive manner. > > 73 Scott > > Quoting John Andrews : > > > Mal, > > > > > Who in the U.S. has worked the distance on a loop that I have covered on > > > normal CW using a vertical > > > Scarborought to Russia, you must have read about it. If you need more > > info > > > let me know. > > > > No, thanks. I remember your messages about the event quite well, and you > > were certainly well congratulated at the time. I'm not sure where you have > > gotten the impression that anyone is claiming that a well constructed > > vertical antenna in a clear area is inferior to a loop for transmitting at > > LF. The vertical is certainly the best option for people with the resources > > to do it right. > > > > In reading your messages over the years, you have consistently discouraged > > radio activities in which one could not be the biggest, the best and the > > first. My only fear is that fellows new to the craft would take this > > seriously, and feel too limited by equipment, money and real estate to even > > try participating in LF work. But perhaps even the greenest of us can > > recognize bluster and self-promotion for what it is. > > > > John Andrews, W1TAG > > > > > > > > > > > > > >