Return-Path: Received: (qmail 81039 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2004 10:02:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Jul 2004 10:02:09 -0000 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BkK7x-000GQx-RQ for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:03:09 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BkK6x-000Mh8-7h for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:02:07 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BkK6d-0007dr-Mi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:01:47 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BkK6d-0007di-B1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:01:47 +0100 Received: from olympus.pncl.co.uk ([195.224.180.233]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BkK6Z-0007tk-Qr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:01:47 +0100 Received: from k7t (host-212-158-223-154.bulldogdsl.com [212.158.223.154]) (authenticated bits=0) by olympus.pncl.co.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6DA593l019485 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:05:10 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c468c0$764a3200$2201a8c0@k7t> From: "Walter Blanchard" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:02:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Pinnacle-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Pinnacle-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: blanch@pncl.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no, Subject: LF: Receivers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) My HF-225 is sufficently sensitive at 136 kHz to be operated on its own without preamps and its 200 Hz CW filter is good enough. Have never noticed intermods etc even putting a big antenna on it. Have used it quite a lot away from base with only a small 2m whip which works well. My ICOM IC-756PRO (Mk. 1) is just about sensitive enough on its own provided I use a big antenna, but then it's very prone to intermod problems from LW B/C. You can hear background chatter from the B/C's all the time. With a 25 dB preamp that has 500 Hz selectivity ahead of it it's fine, but the outboard selectivity is essential to get rid of the intermod. My Kenwood TS-870 is just not sensitive enough on its own even with a big antenna (can hardly hear DCF!) so it needs the outboard preamp/selectivity like the 756. Guess the last two were never designed for LF. The HF-225 is my preference considered as a bare-bones LF receiver. I also have an AR88LF which is fine on sensitivity and selectivity but drifts far too much to be usable for narrow-band stuff. I've also tried an old R1155N which tunes down to 75 kHz on 136 but its selectivity and frequency stability are awful. That's an old WW2 RAF receiver for those who don't know it. Walter G3JKV. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.699 / Virus Database: 456 - Release Date: 04/06/04