Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6357 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2004 21:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore03.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2004 21:30:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 71325 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2004 21:30:22 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2004 21:30:21 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BYtbR-000IR4-Ij for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:30:21 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BYtZE-0001Pu-1g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 22:28:04 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BYtZD-0001Pl-BX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 22:28:03 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.138]) by relay.salmark.net with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BZ07j-0001cx-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 05:28:07 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: unknown Received: from unknown (HELO Main) (rsgb?lf?group@blacksheep.org@213.122.57.77 with poptime) by smtp801.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2004 21:27:52 -0000 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (Main) Message-ID: <002801c44ffa$f557b240$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 22:27:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no, Subject: re LF: "Revolutionary antenna technology reduces size dramatically" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 For those who havent seen this I found this quote, which I must say does not inspire confidence in the work of a "laboratory technician" (according to one source....not a graduate researcher) I wonder if this was peer reviewed !! I think it would answer Andy's question....that no he hasnt done tests on a calibrated range....I bet he has done a lot of simulation though!! Yep top-loading works I reduced my loading coil inductance by about 4:1 but there is a hell of a lot of wire up there. (capacitance increase from 180pF to 850pF at about 6pF per metre) but it is not near the vertical. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "With my technique, I reduce the inductive loading that is normally required to resonate the antenna by as much as 75 percent . . . by utilizing the distributed capacitance around the antenna," he explained. "I looked at all the different approaches used to make antennas smaller, and there seemed to be good and bad aspects" to each, Vincent said. "A helix antenna is normally known to be a core radiator, because the current profile drops off rapidly; they are just an inductor, and inductance does not like to see changes in current, so it's going to buck that. "What I found was that for any smaller antenna, if you place a load coil in the middle you can normalize and make the current through the helix unity; that is, you can maximize it and linearize it," he added. ====================================== These comments do not stack up with radiation resistance changes (necessry to actually radiate more power) but LFers will know the effects of putting capacitance around the aerial ...(trees, bushes, bean-poles, houses etc)....and it is not to get a stronger signal at distance. We shall see. I cant find the Patent No quoted anywhere. The compression he achieves seems about the same as a mobile whip, and you can work round the world on 21MHz mobile with a 1.5m whip and about 100watts....some have been doing it for years. I am fascinated to know what the other "terminal" of his capacitance is connected to!! Or am I being too cynical? Results need to be repeated before they are hailed as breakthroughs. The acceptance by a patent examiner is not sufficient proof of this. There may not be many perpertual motion machines getting through these days but there seem to be plenty of other "strange science". Rhode Is Univ (where??) will probably fight detractors as it seeks to pull in cash, the finances overpowering the scientific method. As a physicist I am saddened. I fear its another case of science by press release, cold fusion all over again. Cheers de Alan G3NYK