Return-Path: Received: (qmail 90812 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2004 15:31:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2004 15:31:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 27537 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2004 15:31:52 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2004 15:31:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1B0jCt-0006pK-TN for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 15:31:47 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B0jBn-0004FG-14 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 15:30:39 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.110] (helo=cmsrelay01.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B0jBl-0004Ev-RH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 15:30:38 +0000 Received: from cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.136) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2004 15:30:04 -0000 Received: from usa.net [151.41.143.30] by cmsapps01.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.13N) with ESMTP id 482iciPEB0108M36; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 15:30:01 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.41.143.30 AUTH dibene@usa.net usa.net Message-ID: <404DE2F7.5070601@usa.net> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 16:29:59 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <7D653C9C42F5D411A27C00508BF8803D01A9F48C@mail.dstl.gov.uk> <000c01c405d7$9a522a00$2e2965d5@oemcomputer> In-Reply-To: <000c01c405d7$9a522a00$2e2965d5@oemcomputer> Subject: LF: RE: Ionospheric doppler ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=FAKE_HELO_USA_NET autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Thanks all for your comments. The clock has an analog part, the receiver, with a very small ferrite antenna, and a large black wax blob on the PCB, with many traces reaching it. Usually this is the low cost "packaging" of an IC, which probably is a sort of simplified microcontroller. But it turned out that Andy and Johan were right. I did what I should have done since the beginning, and what I usually do when building an oscillator to test its stability : the "blow test". I blowed for 20 seconds on the exposed components of the clock, and the result was a change of more than one microsecond.... so the 1pps signal is not derived directly from each pulse of DCF-77, but from the internal oscillator, corrected every now and then with the received signal... I think I can use it as a high sensitivity thermometer, to measure fractional degree changes in the temperature of my shack :-) 73 Alberto I2PHD