Return-Path: Received: (qmail 38049 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2004 19:58:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Mar 2004 19:58:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 97275 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2004 20:06:20 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Mar 2004 20:06:18 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1B5Vgg-000P9i-2n for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:06:18 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B5Vg1-0000si-F0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:05:37 +0000 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B5Vg0-0000sZ-N0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:05:36 +0000 Received: from mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.144]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B5Vfl-0001dl-Kr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:05:21 +0000 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.143]) by mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20040322200449.UHTR16475.mta201-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:04:49 +1200 X-Fake-Domain: quaycustomer Received: from quaycustomer ([219.89.179.60]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20040322200449.VVBK9742.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@quaycustomer> for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:04:49 +1200 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (quaycustomer) Message-ID: <002601c4104b$2b4d62e0$c401a8c0@quaycustomer> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c4100b$76bb7d60$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:20:47 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: LF: Re: Sea Paths Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi Alan, Rik and others, Drawing on ITU-R LF propagation reports, it seems that sea paths can have "coastal gain" of some 8 dB for a station that is fairly close to the coast (and the direction of the signal is in a seaward direction). If each end of the path is so-located, then the cummulative advantage is obvious. Quartz Hill is ideally sited for sea paths in a northwest sector, and UA0LE could hardly be in a better direction for us. I'm not sure how close to the coast UA0LE is sited, but Ed can comment on that in due course. As I reported earlier, the UATLE received signal last Saturday night peaked to be actually audible in the fairly heavy static, and gave "Q5" results on Argo set at 3 second dot length. It could well be that we encountered much better than usual propagation that night. In terms of total time that both ends have a dark path, this is where north/south paths have a big advantage over east/west paths. There were nine hours of dark path between ZM2E and UA0LE last Saturday night. ZM2E is well placed to work "right up the Pacific" to Siberia or Alaska, and enjoy "coastal gain" as well. 73, Bob ZL2CA