Return-Path: Received: (qmail 70865 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2004 15:39:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2004 15:39:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 38236 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2004 15:39:50 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2004 15:39:48 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1B3GfT-0009hk-UF for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:39:48 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1B3Gev-0007Ye-P3 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:39:13 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.43] (helo=mta3-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1B3Gev-0007YV-8q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:39:13 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: l8p8y6 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.51]) by mta3-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040316153911.PJFI20785.mta3-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:39:11 +0000 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (l8p8y6) Message-ID: <000201c40b00$faca8b60$33e4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c40976$62c22ca0$cbe7fc3e@l8p8y6> <1B2wPW-0z1Cro0@fwd02.sul.t-online.com> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:45:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: Re: LF: VE1ZJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:01 PM Subject: Re: LF: VE3ZJ > Jonathan Naylor schrieb: > > > > Oh dear. > > > > 136kHz, like 73kHz and the microwave bands is primarily about > > experimentation. This is the spirit of the band, if someone comes on the > > band looking for another single band DXCC certificate or whatever then I > > am saddened, this is not what its about. LF belongs to experimenters who > > run tests and make a note of conditions and try to learn. If you and > > your friends feel that this is boring then perhaps its not the band for > > you. > > > > Amateur radio is (or should be) about experimentation and self-training > > which seldom comes out of DXCC certificates and rag-chewing. 136kHz is > > one of the few bands that encourages amateur radio as it should be. What experimentation ? It has all been done before. I have a good installation suitable for working any station that appears on the band. If you are still struggling and fumbling on the band do not object to others that want to progress further, encouraging others to the band. I want 100 or more stations active on 136 khz so that I can get the DXCC score up. You obviously have not heard of G3KEV before and the number of countries worked especially on normal CW. I cannot say I have heard you on the LF bands, keep soldering. There is a decline on 136 khz activity this past couple of years just the opposite to what you are saying, it does not seem to be encouraging any new amateurs, in fact the opposite. When CW is mentioned as the main mode on the band most enquiring amateurs turn in the opposite direction. de G3KEV/9V1OY/VS6HI and dozens more if you need them > > > > Jonathan G4KLX/HB9DRD > > > > I take the above words giving reasons for disfiguring the yard with poles. > > Uwe/dj8wx > > > > >