Return-Path: Received: (qmail 70609 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2004 09:20:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan01.plus.net) (212.159.14.235) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2004 09:20:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 37848 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2004 09:20:36 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore01.plus.net (212.159.14.215) by ptb-mxscan01.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2004 09:20:35 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1ArZUw-0009a3-Re for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:20:34 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ArZUG-0006rM-4M for rs_out@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:19:52 +0000 Received: from [212.23.3.140] (helo=pythagoras.zen.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ArZUF-0006rD-Kh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:19:51 +0000 Received: from [82.68.48.134] (helo=virgin.net) by pythagoras.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1ArZUE-00024N-Ru for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:19:50 +0000 Message-ID: <402C96B5.3010501@virgin.net> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:19:49 +0000 From: "Stewart Bryant" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040210184134.KTHX20454.tomts35-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp.bellnexxia.net> <402A6646.4030006@virgin.net> <1ArPAc-19FrkH0@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> <001a01c3f1bc$ad30ad60$6507a8c0@Main> In-reply-to: <001a01c3f1bc$ad30ad60$6507a8c0@Main> X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [82.68.48.134] Subject: Re: LF: Timing GPS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Alan Melia wrote: > Hi Uwe, is it not possible to allow for the delay down the connecting wire > to the NTP sever. In the days I played TCP/IL over packet the PING facility > gave the round-trip delay for paths through regenerators, and packet nodes. > At least that software might be useful for keeping my home network all in > sync > NTP is not a simple time fetch protocol, it is a clock synchronisation protocol that polls the master clock at regular intervals. It does figure out what the RTT is and processes out this error (over a period of time). For non-local time servers the error with a 1024s polling interval seems to be better than 2ms. For a local time server accuracies of 200us with a 64s poll are the norm. See http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/database/brief/perf/perf.pdf - Stewart G3YSX > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > alan.melia@btinternet.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> > To: > Sent: 12 February 2004 22:18 > Subject: Re: LF: Timing GPS > > > >>Hi Stewart es All, >>I do some PC clock synchronizations via internet using the program >>"Time Watch", downloaded from http://www.blue-series.de. the NTP server >>transmitting the synchronization signals must be in your vicinity. >>it is not usefull telling us that their timer is <1uS accurate >>(in my case dirived from GPS receivings) if there is a long wire to the >>server. it`s something else if you would know the phase fault on the line >>and can correct it in some way. >> >>reading the PC clock in mSec from the window "Time Decoder" of SpecLab >>of one PC with the clock (motherboard and sound card) permanent >>synchronized by the standard time signal station DCF77 and at the >>same time reading the mSec from the screen of the other PC just >>clocking by the signals from the internet server, I believe I see >>a difference, DCF77 in front. >> >>be that as it may, we should reach an agreement about what kind of >>synchronization we will make use of. >> > > > > >