Return-Path: Received: (qmail 40586 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2004 22:19:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Feb 2004 22:19:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 67967 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2004 22:19:46 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Feb 2004 22:19:45 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1ArPBR-000HRm-8k for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:19:45 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ArPAl-0003CF-Sc for rs_out@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:19:03 +0000 Received: from [194.25.134.83] (helo=mailout07.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ArPAl-0003Bu-1s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:19:03 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: fwd00.aul.t-online.de Received: from fwd00.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ArPAk-0000Df-02; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 23:19:02 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: (XpsWIYZXQeakD2oH+P7tRRmcIU2KDQQis8lxUT5kuCtofYoXNMPY8L@[62.224.53.83]) Received: from (XpsWIYZXQeakD2oH+P7tRRmcIU2KDQQis8lxUT5kuCtofYoXNMPY8L@[62.224.53.83]) by fwd00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1ArPAc-19FrkH0; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 23:18:54 +0100 From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <20040210184134.KTHX20454.tomts35-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp.bellnexxia.net> <402A6646.4030006@virgin.net> X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 23:18:54 +0100 Message-ID: <1ArPAc-19FrkH0@fwd00.sul.t-online.com> X-Seen: false X-ID: XpsWIYZXQeakD2oH+P7tRRmcIU2KDQQis8lxUT5kuCtofYoXNMPY8L Subject: Re: LF: Timing GPS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.60 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Stewart Bryant schrieb: > If GPS is not an option, then NTP (clock timing via the Internet) > might be an alternative. > > There is some info on accuracy at > > http://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/NTP-s-algo.htm#AEN2361 > > - Stewart G3YSX > Hi Stewart es All, I do some PC clock synchronizations via internet using the program "Time Watch", downloaded from http://www.blue-series.de. the NTP server transmitting the synchronization signals must be in your vicinity. it is not usefull telling us that their timer is <1uS accurate (in my case dirived from GPS receivings) if there is a long wire to the server. it`s something else if you would know the phase fault on the line and can correct it in some way. reading the PC clock in mSec from the window "Time Decoder" of SpecLab of one PC with the clock (motherboard and sound card) permanent synchronized by the standard time signal station DCF77 and at the same time reading the mSec from the screen of the other PC just clocking by the signals from the internet server, I believe I see a difference, DCF77 in front. be that as it may, we should reach an agreement about what kind of synchronization we will make use of. there is a problem in synchronizing the PC clock by DCF77 (as with other standard time signal transmitters): During lf transmittings of your own station there will be no clocking because the DCF77 receiver will be overloaded (what is it in english "zugestopft"?). if the program "Africam" will come into fashion agn (I played with it and the SD KIT abt 20 years ago) the case is`nt as critical as it sounds: if I rember right there are two helpfull knobs, Autotrack and Aütofrequency. BTW. if my station transmits all night long my neighbour runs into trouble with his employer: the radio alarm synchronized by DCF77 doesnt wake him (the neighbour) up. regards Uwe/dj8wx