Return-Path: Received: (qmail 79367 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2004 14:36:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2004 14:36:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 57196 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2004 14:39:31 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Feb 2004 14:39:30 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1AuulW-000ElD-06 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:39:30 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Auukv-0001z4-Ec for rs_out@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:38:53 +0000 Received: from [209.225.28.208] (helo=mxsf08.cluster1.charter.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Auuku-0001yv-AG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:38:52 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: johncellarnew Received: from johncellarnew (cpe-68-118-232-30.ma.charter.com [68.118.232.30]) by mxsf08.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.10/8.12.8) with SMTP id i1MEaIfY039243; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:36:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from w1tag@charter.net) Message-ID: <001c01c3f951$3e83d440$0500a8c0@charter.net> From: "John Andrews" To: "LowFER reflector" Cc: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001101c3f91c$82ba8c10$687a37c0@w2ksn> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:36:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: feedback requested for new WOLF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Stewart, Wow! This sounds very interesting. My comments will be mostly from the U.S. "Lowfer" perspective. Receiving: R1: Loran lines are very faint in the 160-190 kHz range, particularly in the upper end where most U.S. activity occurs, so use of this option would be restricted to receiving EU signals on 136. The intermittent presence of CFH on 137.0 would make the SSB filter approach somewhat difficult for fellows in the eastern U.S.and Canada. R2. Again, the SSB filter would be a drawback. In the eastern U.S., QRM from broadcast operations on 183 and 189 kHz is an issue. Anything which makes that worse should be avoided. R3. My vote goes here. My receiver derives all frequencies from a single L.O. But probably due to integer math in the DDS, there is a 55 milliHertz offset in the output audio. As long as the WOLF decoder can be set to accept the offset signal, I would be OK. Transmitting: T1. That would be my preference. Be advised that we have experienced timing problems with the "keyed tone" approach. The issues should be less with rates of 1 b/s, however. Could you use the RTS pin on a serial port instead? T2. This would be my second choice, and it does eliminate the timing issues with keying. My guess is that the U.S. guys would prefer the T1 option, though. T3 and up. Since I have already voted for the use of a GPS receiver for controlling the receiver L.O. and the decoder/encoder timing, these options are of less interest. But I would defer to those with GPS setups that do not have a disciplined oscillator. John Andrews, W1TAG