Return-Path: Received: (qmail 38813 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2004 10:44:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2004 10:44:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 69866 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2004 10:47:12 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2004 10:47:05 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Atlhx-000HxJ-8Y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:47:05 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Atlh9-0007h9-T5 for rs_out@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:46:15 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Atlh8-0007h0-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:46:14 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: gemini Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1Atlgh-0002XH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:45:47 +0000 X-No-DNS-For: 147.197.232.252 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch15) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1Atlgf-0005Kr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:45:45 +0000 From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:45:50 -0000 Organization: University of Hertfordshire X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (rsch15) Message-ID: <000001c3f6d5$8a90acb0$fce8c593@rsch15> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: RE: RF Current meter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Dear Gary, LF Group >"When I have looked at designs in amateur radio magazines or internet for a >clip on RF Ammeter the designs seem to be limited to 2 ranges (100mA & 1A >FSD), is there a limit to the range of this type RF Ammeter or can the >ranges be extented to say 5 Amps maybe? is there a calculation to extend >the >range ?" >My LF antenna seems to be showing in excess of one Amp so I need an RF >Ammeter with a greater range than 1A. For ammeters using current transformers, you can increase the FSD by INCREASING the number of turns on the secondary of the transformer (current transformation ratio for a transformer being the inverse of the voltage ratio). So if you want to increase meter FSD by a factor N, just increase the number of turns on the secondary (meter) side by N. This divides the current going through the rectifier and meter by a factor of N also, achieving the desired result. There are a number of second-order effects that may alter the calibration somewhat, but experience shows these are usually pretty small. Shunting a thermocouple meter can be problematic, partly because the thermocouple resistance is usually pretty low to start with, and partly because it changes as the heater element heats up with increasing current. A more reliable way of extending the range up or down is to use a current transformer again. So using a 1:N transformer with the "N" winding connected to the ammeter will increase the FSD by a factor of N. Provided the impedance of the winding inductance is large compared to the meter impedance, and primary and secondary are closely coupled, this is an accurate way of changing the meter range - so don't reject thermocouple meters just because they don't have the range you require! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU