Return-Path: Received: (qmail 73899 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2004 22:49:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Jan 2004 22:49:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 58057 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2004 22:49:40 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Jan 2004 22:49:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1AgtpT-000Exo-3M for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:49:39 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Agton-0005ZE-97 for rs_out@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:48:57 +0000 Received: from [62.58.50.89] (helo=postbode02.zonnet.nl) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Agtom-0005Z5-2x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:48:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 18347 invoked by uid 10); 14 Jan 2004 22:48:25 -0000 Received: (vexira-qq 18102-3D3A407D invoked from network) 14 Jan 2004 23:48:20 +0100 X-Fake-Domain: unknown Received: from unknown (HELO ibm) ([62.59.190.210]) (envelope-sender ) by postbode02.zonnet.nl (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 14 Jan 2004 22:48:20 -0000 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (ibm) Message-ID: <005a01c3daef$8519b800$2102000a@ibm> From: "Dick" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c3dad1$62a77eb0$fce8c593@rsch15> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 23:40:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Antivirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.23.0.2; VDF: 6.23.0.29; host: postbode02.zonnet.nl) Subject: LF: interference due to 136kHz transmissions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.60 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hello all, First of all thanks for answering my question; however I actually didn't meant direct interference on reception (radio/TV) but RFI. I mean the CW-signal on 136kHz detected in various audioparts of certain pieces of equipement, like it happens so often when working on the other HF-bands. Especially external computer speakers and (low-cost) midi-sets etc. Where I live everybody has cable-television or a satellite dish, so that won't be the problem. I'm just afraid of getting complains about strange noises coming out of all kind of (audio) equipement in the neighbourhood........... I can imagine that the RF-field on 136kHz is something totally different than the usual HF-stuff. Maybe higher voltage on antenna, or stronger magnetic component, but less 'real' RF-field that cause all these unwanted detection problems. I live in the center of a block of houses with an 10m backgarden. At the end of the garden there is a little alley, and to the oposite site of this alley there is first (like at me) 10m garden space, and then parallel to my block, another block of houses. So, my backneighbours ar a little less then 25m away from me. So, defenatly my backgarden is not the ideal place to put up some kind of transmission antenna for LF. The signal will certainly find not an easy way to get 'out', and my 'activeties'will certainly not stay 'unnoticed'to my neighbours....... (sofar they haven't had any interference from my wires............) My old QTH at my parents place is a little better with less, and further away neighbours; however there are some (to) nearby trees, that also may absorb the little amount of energy I am trying to get out...... Next weeks I'll be busy preparing stuff for our (inter)national PACC contest taking part 14/15 february. I will be operating the 160m station from PI4ZI, like I did last year. Anyway, it is interesting to be on the list, and to get an idea about what's happening all around. Sofar I saw that even with 'simple'set ups QSO's must be possible. Hope to see you all soon on 136kHz! Dick, PA4VHF