Return-Path: Received: (qmail 42856 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2004 15:12:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jan 2004 15:12:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 76406 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2004 15:12:20 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jan 2004 15:12:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Aib4W-000Izm-7a for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:12:12 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Aib3w-0004vp-R6 for rs_out@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:11:36 +0000 Received: from [206.173.118.93] (helo=uhura.concentric.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Aib3v-0004vg-IV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:11:35 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: jka Received: from jka (208.37.242.34.ptr.us.xo.net [208.37.242.34]) by uhura.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Relay 1.1] id i0JFBXb27617 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:11:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001101c3de9e$dc21af60$3401a8c0@comrex.com> From: "John Andrews" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040119140000.03714bf0@u0019445.kuleuven.be> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:13:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: LF: Test failed... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Rich, Two possiblities: 1. As Rik pointed out, it is common practice to provide a DC ground path for MW towers. This would be done with an inductor, and it may not have enough reactance at 136 kHz. 2. If the tower has obstruction lights, their wiring was decoupled (at the original MF) by series inductors (RF chokes) or by a transformer with a wide air gap between the primary and secondary windings (an "Austin" transformer). If the decoupling was done with chokes, they again may not have enough inductance at 136 to avoid a big transformation of the base impedance. If the above suggestions are ruled out, then Jim's comment about the low base resistance should be noted. You could transform the low resistance with a transformer, as he described, or just ground the low end of the loading coil, and connect the transmitter to a tap. This actually forms an "L" network, and is the simplest way to feed a short vertical where a 50 ohm match is required. Lacking an impedance bridge, it would be helpful to have an SWR indication to know where to place the tap. John Andrews, W1TAG