Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7176 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2004 16:21:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Jan 2004 16:21:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 97042 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2004 16:21:53 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Jan 2004 16:21:52 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1AdB0i-000P8O-Ak for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 04 Jan 2004 16:21:52 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1AdB0I-0002w1-9E for rs_out@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2004 16:21:26 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.42] (helo=mta2-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AdB0H-0002vs-P2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2004 16:21:25 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: l8p8y6 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.228.108]) by mta2-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with SMTP id <20040104162124.UQHU19255.mta2-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2004 16:21:24 +0000 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (l8p8y6) Message-ID: <000201c3d2db$27f8e680$6ce4fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 14:19:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Antenna's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "G4WGT Gary" To: "Rsgb_Lf_Group" Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:55 AM Subject: LF: Antenna's > > Hello again to all at LF, > > Happy New Year to you all. > > I have had a few days away over NY so I had quite a lot of e-mails to look > thro'. > I see that there has been some debate on antenna's again which suits me fine > because I am considering trying to improve my LF antenna system. I need to > improve on the support & insulation of the antenna since my recent > experience with corona bringing down part of the antenna, so I going to try > a different antenna arrangement at the same time. > > I have only got a small back garden & at the moment the arrangement is like > a 80 to 90 mtr loop pulled in to the centre from the middle of the sides & > then pulled upwards to the top of my 14 mtr mast & secured at the lower > corners, this makes it take up a lot less space for the amount of wire used > (An example of the shape is like a Maltese Cross with the centre up in a > peak & the wide sides of the cross sloping steeply downwards). The "loop" is > fed with 72 ohm twin feeder at the peak which allowed me to use it on the 80 > M (3.5 Mhz) band with a balanced matching unit. Using this gave a great > increase over the umberella top loading with 4 wires following the criteria > set out on one of the web sites (I think Rik ON7YD). Hi Gary My suggestion is to use the mast as a support for a vertical arrangement. Connect all horizontal wires regardless of configuration together at the top of your 14 metre mast and use a vertical drop lead to connect to your loading/matching coil. ie a top loaded vertical. Keep the drop wire about 1 metre out and away from the mast, the wire does not have to be exactly vertical pull it out at the bottom end about 2 metres. I am assuming your mast is earthed, if not use the mast as the vertical radiator with the top wires connected directly to it at the top and feed the bottom end of mast to the loading coil. Resonate the coil for your preferred frequency on 136 khz and use a smaller coil at he bottom feed end in series to earth as a 50 ohm matching device. Earth the coax braid and tap the coax centre conductor up a few turns from earth to get the perfect match. A small call is preferable to get an accurate match, tapping up the large coil from the bottom is too coarse. Hope this helps you but maybe you know all of this already hi 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > >