Return-Path: Received: (qmail 46691 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2003 18:23:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO netmail02.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.221) by ptb-mailstore with SMTP; 4 Dec 2003 18:23:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 16221 invoked by uid 10001); 4 Dec 2003 18:23:01 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.20) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Dec 2003 18:21:33 -0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ARy0j-0005Rk-9F for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:15:33 +0000 Received: from [64.12.136.162] (helo=imo-m07.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ARy0i-0005RW-Is for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:15:32 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: WarmSpgs@aol.com Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id l.17d.24167aca (4418) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:14:57 -0500 (EST) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <17d.24167aca.2d00d3a1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:14:57 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Subject: Re: LF: Spam etc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Rating: 1 In a message dated 12/4/03 5:20:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, stewart.bryant@virgin.net writes: > It is not coming in > through the LF reflector Actually, some of it _is_ coming in through the reflector; the false PayPal messages and the Nigerian bank transfer scams being recent instances. Seldom does a week go by without one or two advertising messages getting through this reflector. It is far less than the general spam level most of us receive, but it is a contributing factor. > although it is possible that a > spammer joined and harvested the addresses. Possible, though it is equally likely some of the members hit by one of the previous viruses or trojans had their e-mail address books pilfered by spammers. > Try something like mailwasher. All good and well, but as I said yesterday (a) it's not 100% effective, and (b) one utterly miniscule change to the list rules would virtually eliminate any spam coming through the reflector and thereby reduce the total volume of junkmail. John