Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20557 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2003 19:22:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO netmail00.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.218) by mailstore with SMTP; 29 Oct 2003 19:22:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 2599 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2003 17:45:25 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.20) by netmail00.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Oct 2003 17:45:19 -0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1AEuLl-0008MD-6k for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:43:17 +0000 Received: from [194.73.73.81] (helo=tungsten.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AEuLk-0008M4-Md for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:43:16 +0000 Received: from host213-122-161-220.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.161.220] helo=Main) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 1AEuLj-00025k-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:43:16 +0000 X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (Main) Message-ID: <000001c39e44$0a7c7840$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:10:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Propagation after the storm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Rating: 2 Hi all, The solar conditions at present are as high as was seen during the solar max a couple of years ago. Night-time conditions were somewhat depressed even before the last geomag storm. Also the day-time conditions had reached about 10dB of enhancement over "normal" conditions, on the CT1DRP<>DCF39 path. It would seem that the D-layer is now "saturated" with precipitated electrons, because despite the high flux from the flare yesterday (X17.1) there was no noticable improvement in signal levels corresponding to the flare timing. This suggests that the arrival of the CME will not make conditions much worse at night, and it is unlikely that daytime conditions will improve much above those seen at present. CFH was seen for about an hours at lunch-time (1200-1330z) but was still 15dB at least below normal nigt-time levels. This suggests that although the ionisation level in the D-layer is sufficient to reflect strongly rather than absorb, the height of the "reflecting layer" is quite low (probably 50kms) thus requiring 4 or more hops for a transatlantic passage. This may explain the lower levels observed. Whilst the CME may not degrade propagation conditions further it will extend the period before conditions return to a more normal state. I estimate it could be 30 days or more before LF propagation returns to more normal conditions for this part of the cycle. Joe VO1NA has shown that his signal has been able to cross the pond under almost any conditions, but it will be interesting to see if he can be detected in daytime........I suspect not ....CFH has a lot more power and is not usually that strong in daytime. I could be wrong but it will be interesting to find out. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com