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From: "Laurence KL1X" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:58:54 -0800
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Subject: LF: re DCF39
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Transpolar/TranAtlantic conditions to Europe (and the L48 states) from 
Alaska are still " too early" and we are probably a month before any good or 
better returns - I hope Im proven wrong. I hope too that the company forgets 
Im here and I can continue flowing amps until the leaves have fallen and it 
starts to snow. I think North South Paths are more open, and are "better" 
overall, and I was hoping to have seen the XDW beacon in Costa Rica but it 
tripped - I was actually quite confident I would  have detected it.

If I take DCF39 as a very rough  baseline we have only just seen it appear 
at night time on the 9th Sept for the first time since losing it in  Spring, 
and I can only just detect it at dot 60, we will probably need to get an 
improvement in propagation paths by some 40-45dBs for Europeans to be seen 
and maybe heard. Do NOT let this stop you for looking for that DX - as Ive 
found out strange things happen.

Ive never seen CFH yet but I need to spend more time between my morse 
characters.

I dont know about the US East coast from here,and dont have enough empirical 
measurements to figure when and if Ill see Mitch et al or when they will see 
me. The Alaska to East Coast US path maybe more difficult than you imagine - 
the distances to NY and NC are comparable with Europe and still hit the 
Auroral Zones for most of the time. (Yep I beam NE to get to most of the NE 
US States).

After discussions with Alan and others it looks like signals from Temperate 
climes into the Equatorial regions (North South and SE/NW so far) are good 
or better than imagined/envisaged and that only local QRN is the limiting 
factor. Even so the FFT programs such as Arog/Spectran really do help. There 
are seasonal factors of course and, as  ever, my comments realte from short 
periods of listening , in the summer, with limited real estate and less than 
perfect set ups at the remote ends. If there was one things Id do is turn 
off the AGC especially if your in the tropics!


Good luck Gary

Laurence KL1X


>From: "Gary - G4WGT" <g4wgt@talkgas.net>
>Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Subject: LF: RE: re DCF39
>Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:38:33 +0100
>
>Hi Alan and all at LF,
>
>Checked CFH last night after Alans comments, looked at captures this 
>morning
>(Wed 10/09/2003)and CFH first seen at about 2300 utc (Tues night)good
>strength most of time, some sharp fading later and finally faded out at
>about 0625 utc this morning. I will try looking for WD2XDV beacon.
>
>Using G3LNP loop at 15 feet above ground and Yaesu FT747GX with Spectrum
>Lab, my location north west England.
>
>Regards
>
>Gary  G4WGT
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Alan Melia
>Sent: 09 September 2003 09:52
>To: LF-Group
>Subject: LF: re DCF39
>
>
>Hi Steve, yes things are improving a little now, CFH was a good signal here
>last night but was a bit "peaky" with some sharp fades. Good levels were 
>not
>present for as long as on your DCF39 plot. Thanks for the gen.
>
>Cheers de Alan G3NYK
>alan.melia@btinternet.com
>
>
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