Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7878 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2003 11:20:43 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by netmail00.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Aug 2003 11:20:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 25340 invoked by uid 10001); 16 Aug 2003 11:20:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Aug 2003 11:20:42 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19nz6I-0002bm-TL for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2003 12:20:02 +0100 Received: from [194.73.73.176] (helo=protactinium.btinternet.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19nz6F-0002bY-6O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2003 12:19:59 +0100 Received: from host213-122-124-208.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.124.208] helo=Main) by protactinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #23) id 19nz6E-0003BD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 16 Aug 2003 12:19:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c363e8$475940e0$6507a8c0@Main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 12:19:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Fading on 136kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, there have be several queries in the past about the nature of fading seen on the 136kHz band. As a result of a "classic" plot made by Brian of DCF39 on the 13th/14th of August 2003 I decided to try and analyse the causes for the deep troughs in the night-time signal strength. I have used some simple school level algebra, and a rather "naive" model of the ionosphere, to calculate the path differences between, in this case, a one-hop and a two-hop signal paths, relating that to a phase difference at 138.83khz. I some ways the results pose as many new questions as they answer. The full analysis is posted on my web site under the Propagation section. The direct URL of the page is http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/fading.htm The equations, and spreadsheet, could be applied to other combinations of paths, such as ground-wave and one-hop at distances greater than 700kms where the night-time "skywave" becomes stronger than the ground-wave component. Multiple simultaneous observations at different locations might make it possible to calculate the actual height of the "reflecting" layer. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk