Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25513 invoked from network); 1 May 2003 17:49:39 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 May 2003 17:49:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 21271 invoked by uid 10001); 1 May 2003 17:49:39 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 May 2003 17:49:39 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 19BIAe-000558-CN for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 May 2003 18:48:36 +0100 Received: from [62.253.164.43] (helo=mta3-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19BIAU-00054z-VC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 May 2003 18:48:27 +0100 Received: from l8p8y6 ([62.252.229.190]) by mta3-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20030501174826.CORJ23713.mta3-svc.business.ntl.com@l8p8y6> for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 18:48:26 +0100 Message-ID: <001601c31001$6ff450c0$bee5fc3e@l8p8y6> From: "hamilton mal" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01c30f29$700bc080$bbe4fc3e@l8p8y6> <003201c30f4f$ee182a60$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 17:47:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: strange condx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 8:36 PM Subject: LF: Re: strange condx > Hi Mal, thanks for the interesting report. I have looked at the darkness > shadow at that time using Geoclock, and it crosses the path at quite an > angle, approximately between Berlin and Helsinki. That means the ionosphere > is probably still illuminated at around the Russian boarder. My guess is > that the early signal was a one hop path from the bottom of the E-layer at > about 100kms altitude. Later higher order paths become possible as your end > of the path goes into darkness and these destructively interfere giving very > deep sharp fades. It is surprising under present conditions that the initial > signal was so strong as it is a "long hop". Two hop signals would normally > be stronger and more stable over that distance except that there is a lot of > nightime absorption due to the after-effects of the geomagnetic activity. > This would weaken the two hop signals. Maybe that makes them of similar > strength to the one hop and hence the deep fade (cancellation when the > phases oppose) > > Of course I could just be totally wrong....but it sounds like a good story. Tnx Alan for your observations, the only other explanation could be that RN6BN lost a couple of FETS and suddenly took a dive because of power deprivation. > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > alan.melia@btinternet.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "hamilton mal" > To: > Sent: 30 April 2003 16:01 > Subject: LF: strange condx > > > Yesterday early evening around 1900 z RN6BN was a very strong signal, > stronger than usual about S6 then about one hour later he suddenly started > to disappear, this is when I worked him on 137.7 QRS3, we have worked > before. Although weaker he was solid O copy and he gave me the same report. > Shortly after we worked he disappeared totally on a CQ then re appeared, > perfectly readable but during the evening never got as strong as around > 1900z. I have not noticed this rapid QSB on signals before on 136 khz There > seemed to be some unusual propogation at this time. > YU7AR and OK1DTN were very strong with some variations on their signals also > during the evening. > I also observed some DL acty and DK8KM on hellscriber or some variation of > the mode, solid signal. > 73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > >