Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3368 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2003 14:06:59 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Apr 2003 14:06:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 14533 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2003 14:07:03 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Apr 2003 14:07:03 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 199mmw-0000du-VN for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 15:05:54 +0100 Received: from [63.171.43.2] (helo=ns2.genesis-technology.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 199mms-0000dl-3D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 15:05:50 +0100 Received: from we0h ([65.165.20.192]) by ns2.genesis-technology.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h3RE5l631643 for ; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 09:05:47 -0500 From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 09:07:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <001201c30c94$0968c4a0$ee9bfea9@oben> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ns2.genesis-technology.com id h3RE5l631643 Subject: LF: RE: RX-LOOP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,MSGID_GOOD_EXCHANGE,ORIGINAL_MESSAGE, SUBJ_ALL_CAPSversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false I use a 15-meter square loop for receive and it is very quiet on the noise verses the 15-meter flattop vertical. Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of dj9dw Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 3:07 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RX-LOOP Hello LF-Group, as a beginner, I built the loop that I found in df8zrīs homepage. 2m dia, Q=200 seperate grounding 10m off the shack. I did not receive any statione outside Germany. Too much noise by mains, TV etc. A small marconi, 10m vertical and 2x10m on top, although fenced in by surroundings, works satisfactory. I rx G3LDO barely aural to give one example. Facit: there are locations where a loop is pretty qualified to detect noisesources - and nothing else. vy 73 dj9dw, jo40le, nr Frankfurt, Peter.