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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 10:27:15 +0200
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From: jan-martin.noding@telenor.com
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Right,

but you may also use a balun. See RSGB book about EMC (or TVI ...suppose mine is quite old..) and wind the coax cable 10 or more turns through a ferrite core with sufficiently high permeability.
 
I use it for my active antenna, and it is of course mounted some distance above the roof. Since you don't need RG8/U type cable for LF it shouldn't be a problem to manage 10-20 turns through the toroid (provided you haven't installed the BNC connectors in the ends)

73, Jan-Martin, LA8AK

http://home.online.no/~la8ak/

-----Original Message-----
From: Ashlock,William [mailto:William.Ashlock@bocedwards.com]

Alan, all:

>I suspect that you need to isolate the loop feed with a small transformer.
It is possible that
>the feed from the loop is acting as a wire aerial and is conducting TV RFI
and noises from the
>house *back to the loop*.

Surprising how few understand the concept of the RFI actually going from the
receiver back to the antenna site. This applies to E-probe antennas as well.
The typical house/apartment is a mad jumble of LF RFI having both E and H
field components. The proper RF return for remote LF antennas is the ground
immediately under the antenna - not the safety (green wire) ground in the
shack that connects to the chassis of the receiver. The isolation
transformer installed in the coax lead-in offers the only way to sever these
totally different grounds. In severe cases one is needed both at the
receiver and at the antenna since a floating coax shield can pick up noise
before it leaves the vicinity of the shack.

BTW, an isolation transformed can be as simple as two 15-turn windings of
#22 to #28 wire on a common 3/4"dia X 1" ferrite RFI bead found on computer
power cords, monitor cables, communications cables, etc. 

Bill A   

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