Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21947 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2003 19:12:24 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 27 Apr 2003 19:12:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 9999 invoked by uid 10001); 27 Apr 2003 19:05:44 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Apr 2003 19:05:44 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 199rSK-0001q6-Q0 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 20:04:56 +0100 Received: from [194.25.134.84] (helo=mailout09.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 199rSF-0001px-SG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 20:04:51 +0100 Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 199rSF-00012l-0F; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 21:04:51 +0200 Received: from oben (520036610031-0001@[217.224.27.120]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 199rRz-087lb6C; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 21:04:35 +0200 Message-ID: <006b01c30cef$f8846890$ee9bfea9@oben> From: "dj9dw" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 21:05:29 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Sender: 520036610031-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: LF: Re: RE: RX-LOOP X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.7 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,REFERENCESversion=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit fb, Mike, what about the distance to the next neighbour = noisesource? "Neonlamps" on the street? Here in Germany, we are sitting on each other, that might be the problem. I´m thinking of a noisecanceller and dreaming of a qitting DCF. So vy 73 de Peter, dj9dw. ----- Original Message ----- From: "WE0H" To: Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: LF: RE: RX-LOOP I use a 15-meter square loop for receive and it is very quiet on the noise verses the 15-meter flattop vertical. Mike>WE0H http://www.we0h.us/lf -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of dj9dw Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 3:07 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RX-LOOP Hello LF-Group, as a beginner, I built the loop that I found in df8zr´s homepage. 2m dia, Q=200 seperate grounding 10m off the shack. I did not receive any statione outside Germany. Too much noise by mains, TV etc. A small marconi, 10m vertical and 2x10m on top, although fenced in by surroundings, works satisfactory. I rx G3LDO barely aural to give one example. Facit: there are locations where a loop is pretty qualified to detect noisesources - and nothing else. vy 73 dj9dw, jo40le, nr Frankfurt, Peter.