Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25330 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2003 09:37:46 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Apr 2003 09:37:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 28513 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2003 09:37:34 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2003 09:37:34 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 191Nd4-000860-Jb for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2003 10:36:58 +0100 Received: from [194.247.47.231] (helo=mailout.zetnet.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 191Ncw-00085g-Pa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2003 10:36:50 +0100 Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 191Ncw-0005s0-00 for ; Fri, 04 Apr 2003 10:36:50 +0100 Received: from a7j7r2 (bts-0808.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.51.40]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-5.zet) with SMTP id h349abpd028985 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 10:36:48 +0100 Message-ID: <004e01c2fa8d$aa66ed00$2833f7c2@a7j7r2> From: "John Rabson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c2f96c$e5e54fb0$222a7ad5@83Horseshoe> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 10:22:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Time difference Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.9 required=5.0tests=ORIGINAL_MESSAGE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCESversion=2.51 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.51 (1.174.2.5-2003-03-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin MOMGM" > Recently the economy 7 electric meter was changed from a black box to a > grey box with green and red buttons. The former had a single button > that could be used to select normal and off peak consumption as well as > displaying time. The time was picked up from what I thought was a sub > carrier of Radio 4 long wave or maybe MSF. It was very accurate, > matching time on my GPS. The new unit also displays time but is exactly > 10 minutes behind GMT. Any ideas? > > One thought is that the units are set with specific time differentials > so as not to overload the national grid with a single big switch on. That might be it. Some time ago a local electricity company sold quite a lot of economy seven electric storage heaters to people in this village. After a little while we started getting frequent outages in the small hours of the morning. This was of course in the middle of winter. It seems the bulk of the people who bought the heaters were all on the same phase of our three-phase overhead distribution. So, at 2 o'clock in the morning, that phase was suddenly overloaded and the overcurrent protection operated. I understand that control rooms for both electricity and water companies have precise details of when commercial television advertisements are scheduled to be transmitted, as well the actual times when episodes of popular programmes finish. 73 John G3PAI