Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18638 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2003 15:17:50 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Mar 2003 15:17:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 27578 invoked by uid 10001); 20 Mar 2003 15:17:50 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Mar 2003 15:17:49 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18w1i7-0001rn-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:12:03 +0000 Received: from [80.68.3.204] (helo=relay.dx.ru) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18w1i1-0001re-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:11:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 8933 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2003 11:33:25 +0300 Received: from ed.dx (ed@10.0.1.11) by gw.dx with SMTP; 20 Mar 2003 11:33:25 +0300 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:11:02 +0300 From: "Ed Lesnichy" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Organization: Ed Lesnichy X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <196204469165.20030320181102@dx.ru> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: 2-nd Rus LF DXpedition #3 Report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0tests=noneversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello LF Group! #3 (1320z, 20 Mar, 2003) DXpedition's Report MAR 10 19z (0100 local time) Vic UA9OC and Ed RU6LA have arrived in MO94TK, abt 220km from Novosibirsk to South-West (on a bad winter road abt 330km), nr village Dovolnoe (in translation "Pleased" ;-)) to South abt 5km Co-ordinates abt 54 29' N 79 39'E (Dovolnoe) Temperature abt -25 C AVG SunSet 1230z SunRise 0100z MAR 11 Temperature at day -3..5 C, very sunny, thickness of snow 0.5...1m Have begun to do BigVertical II and abt 15z finished abt 2km BV to Eu On TS-850 S-meter without ATT and preselector (1IF 500Hz, 2IF 250Hz filters) at 17z DCF39/Noise S 9+10dB/ 1-2 - excellent! Night Mar 11-12 - best propagation under DXpedition's times ;-(( Since 17z first Argo's files (on G3YXM site: http://www.wireless.org.uk/index.htm) : RU6LWZ O FB in 3s mode (2904km) 1800z first DX - OH5UFO O FB in 10s mode (3303km) 1940z DK1IS O in 30s mode (4493km) 2100z OK1DTN - O in 3s mode!!! (4214km) UA6LV is possible manages on the phone to us - I ask to give the message in DXcluster abt OH5UFO DK1IS OK1DTN signals in MO94TK 2130z M0BMU - O in 10s mode (5047km) later M0BMU O in 30s mode I saw also some weak signals (not indificated) MAR 12 10z finished Big Vertical II (see Dave's site) ANT current 3-3,5A with 60-80w Output But techical problems till MAR 13 (not amateur radio ;-(( We give periodically short signals (push key) Not 120s Beacon test for ZL ;-(( Since 16z RA9MB O in 3-10s mode Periodically we give "UA9OC K" in 10s mode 2320z QSO RA9MB O/O 10s mode (400km) - First UA-UA QSO more 100km distance in QRSS I saw also some weak signals MAR 13 0z RU6LWZ O/O First Europe-Asia QSO and first UA9-UA Eu in QRSS 0030 UA6LO O/O 1300z DCF39/N S 7/4 1430 - 1830z beacon QRSS120 137.700 ("UA9OC") 19z RA9MB O/O agn Periodically we give "UA9OC K" in 10/30s mode 2000z DCF39/N S 9/4 2350z DCF39/N S 9+5dB /4 I saw also some weak signals MAR 14 0020z DCF39/N S 9+10dB/2 0130z 7/1 1330 finished abt 2km BV to ZL 1330 nill on 137.700 1430 send "NN" for ZL6QH nill 1530 QRSS120 "UA9OC" 1740-1830 M copy ZL6QH (.6Q...) (13870km?) Bob ZL2CA info abt co-ordinates ZL6QH: 174 degrees 41 minutes 46 seconds East 41 degrees 15 minutes 10 seconds South This is RE79IG in my soft ?? I have no the Internet and communication on HF with UA6LV Periodically we give "UA9OC K" in 10/30s mode 2130 IK5ZPV O/O 10s mode - not S (4919km) First UA9-I 2200 DCF39/N S 7-8/3 2300 9/2 MAR 15 0050 M0BMU O/M 30s mode First UA9-G and best UA's distance 0120 RU6LWZ 559/559 First Europe-Asia and UA9-UA Eu in CW 0130 UA6LV 559/449 1430 QRSS120 "NN" for ZL6QH nill Periodically we give "UA9OC K" in 30s mode 1900 DCF39/N S 9/1-2 2000 7/1-2 2135 QSX 136/3.5 UA9ZAG 559/599 NO30BR MAR 16 abt 0110z IK5ZPV O/O 30s mode (1:2 dot:dash) 0110 OH5UFO O/M 30s first UA9-OH 0115z DCF39/N S 4-5/2 We dismantle BVs and Big Vertical II Abt 10z we have gone away to Novosibirsk OFF My conclusions: - at good propagation (as was March 11-12) it is possible to carry out QSO EU-AS at QRSS10 with 1w ERP (distance abt 5000km) - at average propagation the maximum him is observed about 2 hours to SunRise - it is not enough for long QRSS and at a usual QSO format - it is necessary to work QRSS30 QSX not less 3Hz (for DX) - in QRSS30 between stations should be not less 0.5Hz (for DX and at good stability). How many it was necessary in Europe? - to begin TX it is necessary only after dash + 1 or 2 dot of a pause (after ending TX of your correspondent, if not another is stipulated beforehand - see long QSO format) - at different ERP(my abt 10-20w and other 1w, for example), more powerful station should work shorter QRSS. But how it to inform the correspondent? Can give at QRSS30(for example) the report OA (O in 10 - 1 step down) or OW(O in 3 - 2 step down)? And other party passes in 10 or 3. Any idea? - for long QRSS(30-120) it is necessary to change a QSO format. It was necessary ~ so (on an example UA9OC-ZL6QH QRSS120): Mar 12-13 UA9OC UA9OC UA9OC UA9OC Mar 14 1230-1410z ZL6QH ZL6QH (QH) 1430-1524 MMM or NNNN (OC) 1530-1620 MMMMM or ZL6QH if OC NNNN(QH) 1630-1720 RRR or NNNN (OC) 1730-1820 RRRRRR or GGGGG (Go AGN? ?? for DFCW) (QH) Mar 15 1230-1325 EEEEEEEE (OC) 1330-1430 EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE (QH) I.e. to apply 1 hour periods TX/RX and no need to send any callsign after the first over, they can be identified by their frequency once the QSO is established. At QRSS30 it is possible to apply 20-30 minute periods What will tell about such Long QRSS QSO format? - it is necessary to use DFCW, but thus to increase a site between stations. I can not work DFCW (FSK F1) - in my license only A1 ;-(( TNX all who informed me about our signal and give me beacon tests ! Let's meet all in our next LF UA6-activites and DXpeditions ! LF UA9OC Special QSL Info (special QSL-card for 1 and 2-way QSO) : Ed Lesnichy P.O. Box 1 TAGANROG, 347900 RUSSIA 73! Ed RU6LA ed@dx.ru