Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2219 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2003 05:30:45 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 05:30:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 5283 invoked by uid 10001); 22 Mar 2003 05:30:44 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 05:30:44 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18wbYu-0003tx-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 05:28:56 +0000 Received: from [210.86.15.146] (helo=mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18wbYo-0003tk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 05:28:51 +0000 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.142]) by mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20030322052816.XBNG14069.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:28:16 +1200 Received: from bob2l2u6k2n1g3 ([210.54.225.214]) by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20030322052815.WKXO20272.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:28:15 +1200 Message-ID: <000601c2f033$e413b3d0$d6e136d2@bob2l2u6k2n1g3> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030320183946.0260e158@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:09:32 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Selection of spot frequencies for DX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.6 required=5.0tests=REFERENCESversion=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, I originally thought that 137.7000 kHz was clear of QRM in this corner of the world, however lots of capture time on trying to find a UA9OC signal (with success on 13 March) found a weak QRM typically 0.35 Hz higher than where I think is spot on 137.7000 kHz. I'm still not sure where the QRM comes from. Luckily the UA9OC signal was offset slightly, but it was luck. I did a full night checking on 137.7100 kHz, with Argo on 120 second dot length, and that was genuinely "clean". I can't help thinking that the QRM is harmonic content of mains frequency, and there are lots of peak rectifiers in domestic use, and the likes of TV sets, VCRs and microwave ovens run with mains live, to keep the clocks going. When I listen in AM mode, I hear "mains hash" over all the LF band. If you can hear mains hash (in AM mode), then Mr Fourier has good advice about where the (highest density) spectral lines are. So my suggestion for selecting frequencies for long haul DX between amateur stations is to avoid multiples of 50 or 60 Hz (50 Hz mains being used in some regions, 60 Hz in others). 137.7100 kHz is an example of being clear of 50 Hz harmonics, whereas 137.7000 kHz is dicing with the 2754th harmonic of 50 Hz, plus or minus some tolerance for the national grid. 73, Bob