Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16435 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 19:54:44 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 19:54:44 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 29622 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 19:54:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 19:54:42 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lwlu-0005md-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:54:18 +0000 Received: from [138.32.33.10] (helo=mailman1.ppco.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lwlt-0005mT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:54:17 +0000 Received: from bvlw2k132.ppco.com (trend2.ppco.com [138.32.31.132]) by mailman1.ppco.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h1KJsF5o017391 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:54:15 -0600 Received: from 138.32.31.56 by bvlw2k132.ppco.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:54:13 -0600 Received: from bvlnotes07.ppco.com (bvlnotes07.ppco.com [138.32.54.38]) by mail1.ppco.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10116 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:54:11 -0600 (CST) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Laurence J Howell" Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:54:10 -0900 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BVLNOTES07/CIT/Phillips Petroleum/us(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 02/20/2003 01:54:13 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: Feb 19th./20th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_03_05,SUBJECT_MONTH,SUBJECT_MONTH_2version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Conditions "up North" Last night 20th Feb 03 - well nothing to write home up here Im afraid, but were improved a bit over the past days if DCF39 is used as a target. Using 2Khz b/w on the 870 I can receive the area of interest and keep an eye on the data beacon (as can people using the Echolink, link) - I didnt receive anything clearly callsign last night at all, but I did get a dot and a rough dash from someone! .......;-)) This morning, at 1500Z my time I couldnt even detect the data sig using Argo - this is rare by the way. As another indicator I do use the bcast band on 150-200Khz as another localized Eu indicator. Looking last night only one Russian the Northern Scandinavian were audible. If I cant hear the French or even BBCR4 at all - like last night - I know (generally) that things are not too good in middle earth.....For Europeans they cant look for any local beacon stations this way - we have some bcst up in the 500Khz region but that's far far removed from LF in my mind, we have TX in Washington state on 24.8Khz I think but thats a few 0000 Kms away. I agree with the comments on using DCF39 solely - as a general indicator but often its stronger here during the day than night! My adage is try try try again, even when it looks poor,; sorry about your power bills, fires, lost sleep etc.! I did some background measurements to give me an order of magnitude idea of my interference noise level here - using a SLMS termed/pads in 2.4Khz b/w, low distortion setting, I get an average -91dBm/50/75 ohms shown...this, given the fact that this is raw, un noise blanked, un filtered to most extent and with a heck of a lot of loran spill over is quite good. It equates to a raw "S 5 or 6", dependant on whose dBv, m, u or whatever you use. I do back off the agc and looking at the beacon as a source, gain about 2 db further into the mush by doing this - If you listen on Echolink you just hear mush and miss the QRN and static crashes spikes which would pin the AGC to something like 9 +10 on some flashes last night. I leave in 6dB of attenuation given the noise figure which gives me another 0.2dB further into the mush....It would/will be lovely to get Loran out of ere....the loop antennae here never gives me any improvement on local s/n so I use the big antennae....The 870 noise banker is excellent (I mean excellent) at kicking out Loran. Will be on again this evening - Echolink KL1X continues to transmit 137/137Khz audio in real time from here - I would be interested in reports using your Argo linked to this connection remotely of how clearly you see DC (or B!)F39 or Loran lines via this link - using QRSS 10/30/60...or not. Doing a side by side comparison of what I see on my computer directly connection to the 870 and what I see coming back via the Internet are not much different - more on this anon. Mal can you resend me your email address - Im not on 160m at the moment as the tower is being worked on.... Well done on last night chaps...more this evening!? Laurence KL1X Clear -5c