Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6895 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2003 22:28:49 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 22:28:49 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 10971 invoked by uid 10001); 13 Feb 2003 22:28:49 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 22:28:49 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jRpY-0001Qa-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:27:44 +0000 Received: from [212.107.32.243] (helo=everyday.com) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jRpX-0001QO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:27:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 14880 invoked by uid 502); 13 Feb 2003 22:27:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO base) (213.213.8.99) by mail-fe76.tele2.ee with SMTP; 13 Feb 2003 22:27:30 -0000 From: "valerio gabbani" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:51:18 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 References: <18jKbP-0UPYMCC@fwd01.sul.t-online.com> In-reply-to: <18jKbP-0UPYMCC@fwd01.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <200302131951.18651.valerio@dii.unisi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Subject: Re: LF: EH-Antenna Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=6.0tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAILversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false On Thursday 13 February 2003 15:44, bernd grupe wrote: > Hi all, > for one who is interested in getting more practical information, there is a > URL: > > http://www.qsl.net/iz7ath/web/home_eng.htm > > where you can find some hints to build this antenna for 160 m. And > furthermore a lot of results in doing qsos with this type of > lowband-antenna. Talino (iz7ath) suggests 6m long cylindres/2m diameter for > 137 kHz. If the loss of efficiency will be abt. 10dB compared to a > fullsize-dipol(measured at 1.8MHz!) then it would be a hope for all lowfers > with large aereas and tolerant neighborhood :-)) 73 Bernd, DF8ZR Bernd and all, I was interested in EH antenna for 137 kHz some time ago, because i haven't a tower 30mt high or more. I think EH fans claims are simply fool. Here in Italy there is great interest around EH antenna for 40mt, 20mt and also for 6mt, someone proposed (for joke) also a version for 10 Ghz only 3mm length and 1mm diameter. EH antenna radiate some power and it is possible to do QSO(mainly on 40-20 mt), but cable is part of the antenna, so no new phenomenon, only the old one. I know Talino's work, but its results seems to confirm the important role of the cable. So if you cannot go high, you can hope only to obtain an efficiency around 0.1%. '73 IK5ZPV (Valerio)